Originally posted by DJ RANN
Firstly, BUSH deregulated the finance sector.
you cant blame this on bush, as all the democrats so frequently do. democrats all pushed for deregulation on this as well over the past 10 years. The lobbyist won this one
But back to the housing problems & relaxed loan restrictions, those can be blamed on the legislation passed by democratic sen barny frank and his committe and their journey to give the american dream (a house) to all. Stated income, %0 down, %100+ LTV, are you kidding me? When will a democrats actaully own that one?
starboy
^
Clovis
quote:
Originally posted by Sammy V
I concur...I watch CNBC, Fox Business, Fox, and CNN every morning and on my days off. The only people supporting this bill are BRack supporters and those who will directly benefit from this bill.
That isn't true.
djjoshuaallen
quote:
Originally posted by starboy
^
Bush shared the same stupid idea, he is guilty. But so are all of these democrats. We have a failure of government, not just of George Bush.
:D
I encourage you to watch this cspan edit the entire way thru, then say its all bush's fault, die bush die.
republicans seeking regulation, democrats denying that
Ill throw this one in just for starkid
Clovis
Nancy Pelosi is a retard.
starboy
quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
you cant blame this on bush
Yes you can, and i gave you an example. No where did i say no democrat should be blamed for the collapse. Here is a good time magazine list of 25 people to blame for the finacial crisis, bush came in #15 just behind madaff #9... ouch. I don't see pelosi or barny frank on that list.
Originally posted by R!CH
keep dreaming. even if i was gay i wouldn't go for a guy in his 30s that still goes to raves (lol). i am flattered by your attempts to court me, but you're barking up the wrong tree. don't give up on love though, it's probably just one light show away!
Now that's funny, R!ch! Assuming that I've reached my thirties, attend raves and can get enamored by a "light show" as you do everytime Obama drops ass or blows snot!
Your lot can criticize the failed practitioner of Conservatism (Bush) all you want but you haven't seen me defend him much, if at all, here. Now do you? But your champion of Libtardism (Obama) is dangerously implementing a provenly failed ideology of Libtardism!
Practitioners aside, please enlighten this "boom-boom" board of how Libtardism in its purist forms trumps Conservatism. You can't. Because even your beloved political side practices Conservatism in their private lives but due to their unique deranged nature for power consumption, they stand on leftarded platforms with a strong-hold on and administration of its warped psychology to prey upon the likes of you since they can't do it on the right side of things. Pretty sick the left is. And even more sad for the followers of it.
Nice work Josh on the You-Tube pieces btw. Oh or did I do it. Or did Josh do it. Or maybe me. Hmmmm.
R!CH
quote:
Originally posted by T.A.S.D.
Nice work Josh on the You-Tube pieces btw. Oh or did I do it. Or did Josh do it. Or maybe me. Hmmmm.
or maybe nobody cares who some raver in his late 30s whose so embarrassed by the facts of his life that he has to hide his identity really is? hmmmm. and btw, i know you're not josh--that was a joke.
Clovis
quote:
Originally posted by T.A.S.D.
Now that's funny, R!ch! Assuming that I've reached my thirties, attend raves and can get enamored by a "light show" as you do everytime Obama drops ass or blows snot!
Your lot can criticize the failed practitioner of Conservatism (Bush) all you want but you haven't seen me defend him much, if at all, here. Now do you? But your champion of Libtardism (Obama) is dangerously implementing a provenly failed ideology of Libtardism!
Practitioners aside, please enlighten this "boom-boom" board of how Libtardism in its purist forms trumps Conservatism. You can't. Because even your beloved political side practices Conservatism in their private lives but due to their unique deranged nature for power consumption, they stand on leftarded platforms with a strong-hold on and administration of its warped psychology to prey upon the likes of you since they can't do it on the right side of things. Pretty sick the left is. And even more sad for the followers of it.
Nice work Josh on the You-Tube pieces btw. Oh or did I do it. Or did Josh do it. Or maybe me. Hmmmm.
You should get an education.
djjoshuaallen
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Nancy Pelosi is a retard.
yup, and she has one of the most crucial roles in our government.
Clovis
quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
yup, and she has one of the most crucial roles in our government.
Not exactly..
Sammy V
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DJ RANN
I love this. No that he's gone, republicans try to disown Bush, like he wasn't a "free market conservative", He wasn't "conservative enough" etc. - are you ing kidding me? More deregulation and encouragement of "free market" conservative initiatives happened under bush than under any other president in the last 50 years.
For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
2001
April: The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."
2002
May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
2003
January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.
February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that "although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations," "the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them." As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. ("Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO," OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)
September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO's review found earnings manipulations.
September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact "legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises" and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.
November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have "broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards" and "receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)
2004
February: The President's FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: "The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator." (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)
February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to "not take [the financial market's] strength for granted." Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by "ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, "Keeping Fannie And Freddie's House In Order," Financial Times, 2/24/04)
June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying "We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System." (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)
2005
April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying "Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system." (Secretary John W. Snow, "Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee," 4/13/05)
2007
July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.
August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying "first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options." (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)
September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.
September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.
December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying "These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I've called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon." (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)
2008
January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.
January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.
February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says "A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully." (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)
March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.
March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and "move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages." (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)
April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and "modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)
May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
"Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)
"[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)
"Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)
June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying "we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
July: Congress heeds the President's call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
