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Can soft synths ever sound as good as hardware? Post your opinion. (pg. 11)
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EddieZilker
No, dude! The only way to go is full-blown analogue modular, for the reals. That's it!

I totally, totally can blow away any digital rig with 'virtual' whatever, dude.

I mean, totally, like, you know with a controlled voltage sequencer. Screw that computer skank, man.

Analogue tape saturation simulation? How about real analogue tape, dude? Try that on, for size. See if it fits.

I didn't think so, compu-dork!

/douchebag
Kismet7
quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
This thread is just bull.

Its all in the skill of the producer!

Does hardware sound better than software in the very most cases? YES it does.

But that is totally irrelevant, the idea of the track, and how the sounds go together is what counts, in all cases.


Your right, but were discussing what sounds better. The skill of a producer is a different topic, and its something the Software guys like to fall back on to avoid the Analogue is superior sounding fact. The end product between software and hardware use is really up to the skill of the producer, and both software and hardware have their nearly equal strengths and weaknesses there. Ill say it again, the best setup for the best possible music to be made is a hybrid of software and hardware.

Hybrid setup > Hardware only setup > Software only setup
Subtle
quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7 the best setup for the best possible music to be made is a hybrid of software and hardware.

Hybrid setup > Hardware only setup > Software only setup
Yeah, that is quite obvious.
EddieZilker
If/when I can, I'm definitely going hybrid. I get a lot of mileage out of soft-synths. I can't see myself doing with out a Moog and an Alesis Andromeda, however. There is also something quite appealing about the concept of analogue channel strips on the front-end and a back-end analogue mastering stack feeding into a Korg MR-1000 that makes the required 20 or so thousand dollar expense, worthwhile.
cronodevir
Are you guys still trying to quantify opinions?

Hardware synths sound better because that is your opinion, the specific sound they make is "better" than those of software synths.

The concept of which sounds better cannot be quantified. Also the amount of people who vote for one or the other doesn't change how it sounds for each individual person.
evo8
the best setup for the best possible music to be made is either:

a) hardware setup only
b) software setup only
c) hardware and software combination

i think thats more accurate
Raphie
no quality wise for a skilled producer the best possible way is

1. spend >100K$
2. spend >50K$
3. spend >10K$
4. spend <10K$
5. spend nothing

Money does not buy you production skills or talent, but when you have both already: the more you spend, the better your productions will sound... (either with high end hardware or high end software, or both)
Subtle
quote:
Originally posted by evo8
a) hardware setup only
i`d like to see anyone use this. :p
LfmC
Arguing about what tools and sounds are best is like painters arguing about which colors and brushes are best. Completely pointless... Sound in itself is a personal subjective experience.

But I guess as long as there are ppl who aren't experienced with both software and hardware, there will always be topics like this emerging..
I've been a software only user from the start. The first VST's ever made. I still believe that ppl who know what they're doing can do it all "in the box". I've seen this first hand.

But I also know what it feels like to dish out 3000$ on a hardware synth and what that does. It doesn't give you much better sounds. What it does is make you want to use it more, learn it more, get more from it.. and the result? You actually get more from a hardware synth. It's more fun to use, and as we all know, the more fun you have, the better the results. There's no denying this.
It's no different from cars in a way: if you had a porsche and a fiat, what would you prefer to drive? they both do the exact same thing. But somehow most ppl prefer driving a porsche. Go figure..
Just another 2c to a pile of opinions.
evo8
quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
i`d like to see anyone use this. :p


yeah me too, but at least they would be getting top quality music out, right??!!!! :D

palm
quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
i`d like to see anyone use this. :p

using an elektron machinedrum is possible.
Raphie
or a MPC....
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