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Keeping your PC in tip-top shape for Production (pg. 4)
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| daeus |
All of this might make a minute difference on a single core PC but Multi-core really dosnt get too effected by the things mentioned here on newer PC's, an internet connections pretty important for most things and just easier on the machine you're working on.
I went from a Intel P4 to a Quad core 9450 and tried all the above with the P4 but as long as your PC dosnt have major fragged HD/spyware attack and you know which processes should and shouldnt be running your're pretty much doing the best you can! |
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| palm |
| backup everything often and then format and reinstall every 6 months, thats all. |
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| DJ RANN |
Do the music xp twaeks as posted on page 2 of this thread to optimise you computer, and if you're just using it for production and it's a PC, don't have an internet connection.
I know subtle and Storyteller haven't had any problems but they are the incredibly rare exception. I would bet that if you ran and antivirus and spyware prog, you'd find your computer is rabid with infections.
I hate running anti virus software on a pc because of the resources issue but honestly I have an old pc laptop that gets attacked everytime I even connect to the net (and no I don't even go to any dodgy sites). I even have nod32 (best of all of them in terms of security and the least resource hungry) but still some get through from things like discs and usb drives etc.
That's one of the main reason why you find macs in most studios - they do exactly the same thing but it will never be an issue.
Also, I find all sorts of background running on pc's - stuff like acrobat resources (to let you see flash website), ISP essential tasks, etc - and this is shot that you generally have installed to just make your PC run, all eating at you processing power.
If it;s for production, just install the stuff you need to produce and leave it at that. Get a $100 old laptop if you need to download dodgy stuff and go to suspect sites - it will save you so much time and effort. You could always just have a mac and a pc :D |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I know subtle and Storyteller haven't had any problems but they are the incredibly rare exception. I would bet that if you ran and antivirus and spyware prog, you'd find your computer is rabid with infections.
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Yeah most likely tons of it, but it doesnt affect my performance so it doesnt matter to me.
And when I first get a Virus that is dangerous most of the Anti Virus programs actually cant repair or fix it anyways.
So id rather check my machine for viruses when i suspect there is something dodgy going on :) |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | Originally posted by Numb
That is amazing. 24/7 online? PC right?
There are bots scanning for "holes" across vast ip ranges self installing nasty stuff without your knowledge.
I'm totally shocked.
I've seen this with my own eyes on a fresh out the box PC. I think it was about 200 some odd "nasties" within 2 hours or so. Note: We did not brows the internet, only plug it in and left it there, doing nothing but ing around on the desk. That was a few years ago but I can't imagine Win got their together that good.
Not saying your lying but thats a hell of a claim.
Lucky you. |
that was probably a windows installation without any service packs..
connecting to internet without at least sp1 = ED |
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| echosystm |
You guys must be hardcore noobs. I haven't had a single virus or spyware since I was 16, when I was horny and stupid enough to go to websites like "hotbabeedinass.lolyouregoingtogetspyware.com".
Windows security isn't a problem with the product, it is mostly a problem with the retarded users. Unfortunately, the world is also full of too many sociopath computer activists, who think they are doing everyone a favour by "creating a level playing field". If prostitution was legal, these guys would have lost their virginities by now and gotten lives. Believe it or not, Macs and Firefox have more security flaws than Windows and IE. The difference is, no one bothers to exploit them because no one uses Macs and all the coders are using Firefox themselves. |
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| Storyteller |
:D agreed.
@DJ Rann: I wouldn't call myself an exception, just someone with knowledge how to actually use a pc properly :). |
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| Nick Cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theran
Don't have a internet connection on your studio computer! |
This is what I'm planning on doing when I get my laptop for DJing with Live. |
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| palm |
damn its not that big of a problem.
if something happends just format the and start over.
the thing u should think about is getting an external disk for backup which isnt connected to computer all the time. then it doesnt matter if u are attacked from the interweb, most likely u wont if ur using firefix when browsing for that real slayer/rape tape that gets others in trouble. |
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| Numb |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
that was probably a windows installation without any service packs..
connecting to internet without at least sp1 = ED |
Yes it was. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
You guys must be hardcore noobs. I haven't had a single virus or spyware since I was 16, when I was horny and stupid enough to go to websites like "hotbabeedinass.lolyouregoingtogetspyware.com". |
Thank you.
Honestly, why do people waste their time with these pointless tweaks? So you can squeeze maybe 1% better performance out of your machine?
Here's what you actually need to do in order to keep your PC in "tip-top shape":
1. Get a system with decent specs to begin with.
2. Don't install a bunch of that you don't need.
3. Don't install anti-virus or anti-spyware software; seriously, these hurt performance way more than any actual virus or spyware.
4. Don't surf to dodgy websites.
5. Set to defrag automatically once a month. Don't waste time doing it manually or more often.
6. If you're running Vista, and don't use an SSD, and don't have a huge amount of memory, pick up a good flash drive and enable ReadyBoost. Or just get more memory.
Seriously, disabling the screen saver? It's a timer. That's it, it's one ing kernel object. Do you have any idea how many of these a sequencer already uses? Hell, the Winlogon process by itself shows up as using 140 handles on my machine. This is not slowing your computer down.
Same with power schemes. Same with System Restore, which only ever kicks in when you make major changes to the system (how often do you do this?). Same with Error Reporting, which (surprise!) only kicks in when a program crashes. This 's retarded, it's like going over your desk with a magnifying glass and Q-tip when all you really need to do is drag a dust mop over it a few times.
My advice is to spend more time producing - or arguing on the internet or whatever else makes you happy - and less time on completely pointless, boring, menial tasks like fiddling with the time sync or FUS settings.
| quote: | Originally posted by Numb
There are bots scanning for "holes" across vast ip ranges self installing nasty stuff without your knowledge. |
lolwut? I thought every internet-enabled machine on the planet today was behind a router. Even still, as long as you keep up to date on OS patches, the actual likelihood of being passively infected is near zero. Almost every spyware infection today comes from people downloading and deliberately running dodgy-looking trojans, either because they're idiots or because they were looking for k3y@3nZ for their h@xx0r3d w4r3Z, or both. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Thank you.
Honestly, why do people waste their time with these pointless tweaks? So you can squeeze maybe 1% better performance out of your machine?
Here's what you actually need to do in order to keep your PC in "tip-top shape":
1. Get a system with decent specs to begin with.
2. Don't install a bunch of that you don't need.
3. Don't install anti-virus or anti-spyware software; seriously, these hurt performance way more than any actual virus or spyware.
4. Don't surf to dodgy websites.
5. Set to defrag automatically once a month. Don't waste time doing it manually or more often.
6. If you're running Vista, and don't use an SSD, and don't have a huge amount of memory, pick up a good flash drive and enable ReadyBoost. Or just get more memory.
Seriously, disabling the screen saver? It's a timer. That's it, it's one ing kernel object. Do you have any idea how many of these a sequencer already uses? Hell, the Winlogon process by itself shows up as using 140 handles on my machine. This is not slowing your computer down.
Same with power schemes. Same with System Restore, which only ever kicks in when you make major changes to the system (how often do you do this?). Same with Error Reporting, which (surprise!) only kicks in when a program crashes. This 's retarded, it's like going over your desk with a magnifying glass and Q-tip when all you really need to do is drag a dust mop over it a few times.
My advice is to spend more time producing - or arguing on the internet or whatever else makes you happy - and less time on completely pointless, boring, menial tasks like fiddling with the time sync or FUS settings.
lolwut? I thought every internet-enabled machine on the planet today was behind a router. Even still, as long as you keep up to date on OS patches, the actual likelihood of being passively infected is near zero. Almost every spyware infection today comes from people downloading and deliberately running dodgy-looking trojans, either because they're idiots or because they were looking for k3y@3nZ for their h@xx0r3d w4r3Z, or both. |
You're right on many points, but those xp tweaks are incredibly useful for one situation in particular: if you are using an badly underpowered PC for music production. I was able to use a 1999 computer for over 7 years (even right up to using SX3) simply becuase of those tweaks. The difference before and after them on a fresh format was nothing short of staggering - I'm talking the difference in being able to produce a track in sx3 with loads of FX and soft synths and not being able to even open the damn program.
I completely agree however that if you have a good spec computer in the first place (which you should if you're trying to do music production) that can handle most tasks then these point really won't make any useful difference at all. Having said that, they don't hurt either (maybe apart from system restore but I never used that anyway).
Also, that BS about only noobs get virus. I swear to god, I formatted an old laptop recently and before I could even get all the service pack upgrades on there I had a virus again. I had to use the resditributable SP'd instead becuase I couldn't risk having it connected to net. And no, before any of you wiseguys say it, I'm not a noob - I started programming my own games on PC's when I was 8. You don't have to be a noob, there are so many virii out there and many vulnerabilities in windows that are just begging to be taken advantage if. Yes, macs have vulnerabilities too, but I've not seen a mac with a virus in the 5 years I've been using them at work or at home. |
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