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coroknight
Ok this might seem a little noobish but I have a question about producing with vocals.

Lets say I have a vocal sample that I want to put into a track. How can I tell what key the vocal is in and more importantly how do I change the key of the vocal to fit into the track?

I use ableton and any software and technique suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Eric J
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Originally posted by coroknight
Lets say I have a vocal sample that I want to put into a track. How can I tell what key the vocal is in


Either hammer it out in the piano or use a tool like Mixed In Key to read the file and detect the key.

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Originally posted by coroknight
and more importantly how do I change the key of the vocal to fit into the track?


Use the Transpose knob in Ableton.
owien
all i do is pull on my piano vsts or strings and tune them with the voacals. :D
david.michael
Agreed with the above posts. I have a good enough ear that I can just listen and tune accordingly.

If you don't, there are utilities at your disposal, but I'd question whether one who doesn't have that ability should be composing melodic music.
palm
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Originally posted by david.michael
If you don't, there are...
other hobbies to do.
coroknight
My bad, I guess I didn't phrase my question correctly. I was trying to ask about fitting a vocal melody to synth melody but I guess I could try breaking up the vocal sample and transposing each part by hand.

I've never worked with vocals before and thought it would be a good idea to see if their are any tips/tricks but it seems like the best way to do it is manually.
david.michael
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Originally posted by coroknight
My bad, I guess I didn't phrase my question correctly. I was trying to ask about fitting a vocal melody to synth melody but I guess I could try breaking up the vocal sample and transposing each part by hand.

I've never worked with vocals before and thought it would be a good idea to see if their are any tips/tricks but it seems like the best way to do it is manually.


Well, when it comes to key/pitch, I simply don't trust anything beyond my ears.

But, I'm one of those "if it sounds good, it is good" types.
david.michael
Oh, and for what it's worth, I'm usually starting with an already-created acapella and I work the instrumental to fit THAT key, instead of the other way around. Just how I work.

Alternatively, I'm recording vocals, but then they are being fit to what I've already made.

So, transposing the vocals is rarely an issue for me.
owien
quote:
Originally posted by coroknight
My bad, I guess I didn't phrase my question correctly. I was trying to ask about fitting a vocal melody to synth melody but I guess I could try breaking up the vocal sample and transposing each part by hand.

I've never worked with vocals before and thought it would be a good idea to see if their are any tips/tricks but it seems like the best way to do it is manually.
then the thing to do is fit the vocals into a 4/4 time sig play on a loop and pull on ya top synth then find the notes it the voacals.
Beatflux
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Originally posted by david.michael

But, I'm one of those "if it sounds good, it is good" types.


What other type is there?

"It sounds like , but the waveform looks great! I'm going to listen to it."

kitphillips
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Originally posted by Eric J


Use the Transpose knob in Ableton.


:stongue:

I hope you were joking:nervous:
david.michael
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Originally posted by Beatflux
What other type is there?

"It sounds like , but the waveform looks great! I'm going to listen to it."


You'd be surprised how many people try to rely on everything but their ears.
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