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DeadMau5's Sound in Finished Symphony (pg. 2)
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hadi burpee
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Originally posted by Kismet7
A lot of good equipment.

FL Studio is just a small piece of the sound pie.


The sound in that track i'd attribute 80% to having good equipment, 20% making use of it properly. So, yah, get some good equipment, learn it, and you too can make good sounding music.
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.


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Originally posted by Tsuekasa
Well i just got his sample cd with all the sounds, dont do me any good if i cant achieve his sound. How do i get his sound in Fl Studio? Its like a reversed synth or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wp...feature=related

^sorry this is the correct link


tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.
Kismet7
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Originally posted by hadi ******
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.




tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.


quote:
Originally posted by hadi ******
maybe you can flip that ratio around. you can get great sound without the best equipment, or any, probably not excellent (and you need a properly treated room for this anyways), but great is pretty good. obviously it wont sound as good as someone that has high quality equipment that knows how to use it well.




tsuekasa, learn how to acheive good sound out of what you have now, and then start buying equipment. or if you have a ton of money, or think you will be making music for a long time, then buy equipment and practice and get good on that.


You can flip it, but you will end up at a culdesac end eventually. You will be cracking your back at the engineering and mixing stage. Which takes away from the creative process. Things should flow. For myself, the actual music side pours like water, even the complex pieces, but threshold remains that I have to spend a lot of my time trying to mix the track to a presentable state, and then there is a ceiling on how good that can sound. With better equipment, anyone would be spending less time in trying to make things sound good, because they already sound good, and more time refining things musically, which leads to more amazing pieces of music being made. Musical ideas should ultimately be what divides music, not all the time that is spent engineering. And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing, and imo the script should be flipped on that.
hadi burpee
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Originally posted by Kismet7
You can flip it, but you will end up at a culdesac end eventually. You will be cracking your back at the engineering and mixing stage. Which takes away from the creative process. Things should flow. For myself, the actual music side pours like water, even the complex pieces, but threshold remains that I have to spend a lot of my time trying to mix the track to a presentable state, and then there is a ceiling on how good that can sound. With better equipment, anyone would be spending less time in trying to make things sound good, because they already sound good, and more time refining things musically, which leads to more amazing pieces of music being made. Musical ideas should ultimately be what divides music, not all the time that is spent engineering. And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing, and imo the script should be flipped on that.
i think if you know your equipment it shouldnt be a problem. besides if the engineering is getting in the way of creative flow, just do it after you compose the track. it is true that better equipment makes it sound better, but it is not automatic and i dont think it speeds up the process. maybe it speeds up the mixdown, but not the musical process. i used to care that tracks that aren't as good musically are being played ahead of the musically sound ones because they are engineering better, but engineering is part of the process too.
johncannons1
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Originally posted by Kismet7
Well all you need is FL Studio, why not just message the person who made that cover on youtube. In the longterm though, if you want good sound, you need proper equipment, don't let anyone sell you the idea that you won't. The days of software being a good means of making good sound are kinda coming to an end as more producers are discovering this hasn't been entirely true. And to be competitive in the future you will definately need to keep up with a ever growing savy producer community who have started on software and now are adding hardware where they can afford it. Besides, I don't think software based productions will have the fidelity shelf life of hardware based productions. Im speculating, and this up for debate...In 20 years...the discrepency between the two will start to show more than it already does, and people will be able pick out music "yah this was probably made entirely on software, and this was probably made on hardware."


Umm because companies spend millions on R & D wouldn't the gap between hardware and software start to close more as it has done in the past decade ?
Because Computer technology is evolving ever day..

And in regards to ur 80% to 20 % statement I always thought it was more the cook than the kitchen.. I've heard countless producers say so..
dannib
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His sound definately sounds like its summed from FL Studio


LOL
Owsey2008
Kismet, are you for real?
farris
Must...resist...not...replying.......

Kismet, sorry man but what a load of bull.
I've always refrained from replying to some of your comments but you make some really st00pid ones occasionally.
And you're the first one ever on here that provoked me to give a negative reply.

The days of software coming to an end?
Seriously, can you look 20 years into the future and tell us how far software has developed in terms of capability?
The gap should be getting smaller and not bigger. If there is a gap to begin with, since most comparisons are made between VST(i) and VA synths.
I'll bet that YOU can't hear if something is made with hardware or software in 99% of the times, let alone 20 years from now.

Every now and then this subforum opens a fresh can of people that seriously are misinformed or don't have any logic whatsoever to think for themselves.
palm
what deadmouse is using is samples only, the gear in his bedroom is only for sponsors he has no clue how to use it and it shows when he tries to show of. rofl. that anyone wants to put their name besides his is beyond my understanding.
Lunar Phase 7
LOL.

Oh dear Kismet, oh dear.
palm
quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
And a lot of the music that is highly revered these days is music that is ok musically, but the sound engineering is amazing

please give me an example of an amazing engineered track from today

msz
Waza
I feel i'm reading from a comedy sketch sometimes reading all this..

Kismet what planet are you on....
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