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Bit Rate - And why it doesn't apply to you
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| RichieV |
Alot of people have been using this term regarding their final mix wondering or asserting the perceived quality.
Bit Rate affects dynamic range. Unless you are recording (live instruments more so than synths) or mixing at something under -10dbfs ( which is very conservative ) , you really aren't going to benifit from 24 bits or 32 bits. That isn't to say it couldn't help some other forms of audio , but the way dance is mixed, it really is not going to make any difference.
Just wanted to get that out in the open. |
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| EddieZilker |
I disagree.
Just getting that out there, in the open, too. |
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| RichieV |
| why do you disagree ? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
why do you disagree ? |
Something I read in the Computer Music Tutorial back in 2000 along with a noticeable improvement in quality when I convert Reason ReWire input into a high-bit-depth .wav file.
Why do you agree? |
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| cronodevir |
| Just use 2048bit .wav format. Problem solved. |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
Something I read in the Computer Music Tutorial back in 2000 along with a noticeable improvement in quality when I convert Reason ReWire input into a high-bit-depth .wav file.
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Quite true.
I never said it wouldn't be higher quality. I'm saying the added fidelity, as marginal as it probably is considering the mediums described, will not matter once you are mixing said sources near -3dbfs.
Why I agree with myself ? Are you really asking that question ?
Refer to initial post. It is actually quite simple. Do you understand what dynamic range is? Music mixed at that level does not really have dynamic range. 16 bit is quite adept at dealing with the limited range of almost every EDM release. 24 bit just isn't going to do anything. Like having 8 gigs of ram in windows xp. |
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| cronodevir |
What is the highest possible quality you can get in digital audio?
How high do the numbers go..I don't care if there is no difference, i just want to know how HIGH do they go? What would i need to do to make an audio file of the highest setting possible? |
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| RichieV |
there is no answer. The only limitation is ram and hardrive space. You can create a 1000000 bit 44 Mhz file format if you really wanted to. It is just an arbitrary organization of information.
But humans can only hear to 22 khz and the JND is 1 db so it is irrelevant, unless i suppose you were mixing music for dolphins. And besides most playback will only support so many formats. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
Quite true.
I never said it wouldn't be higher quality. I'm saying the added fidelity, as narginal as it probably is considering the mediumms described, will not matter when you are mixing near -3dbfs.
Why I agree with myself ? Are you really asking that question ?
Refer to initial post. It is actually quite simple. Do you understand what dynamic range is? Music mixed at that level does really have dynamic range. 16 bit is quite adept at dealing with the limited range of almost every EDM release. 24 bit just isn't going to do anything. |
Proof?
And being that you offered the thesis up for discussion does imply that you agree with it. Being that your prose is littered with common spelling mistakes, you've got a nerve to beg for semantic consideration in any argument. |
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| cronodevir |
| Was going to see if there is any, at all,difference between the norm and supreme high quality. |
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| RichieV |
Always sad when someone has nothing left in their little bag of tricks that they have to start calling people on their spelling. PS, prose is more a grammatical syntax thing but i'm sure a literature scholar like you knos that.
My lack of detail to spelling is probably due to my frustration having to explain such simple concepts to people like you that clearly don't understand the core concepts to make sense of why i said what i said but keep demanding to understand when they aren't willing to understand the terms involved.
Proof ?
You are asking me to prove why 10 - 5 is 5. I actually would but until more people start asking why , i think i will wait. The reason being that if you don't get it thus far, it will take a really long discourse on the principles of digital audio and i just don't have the time to spoon fed you. |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Was going to see if there is any, at all,difference between the norm and supreme high quality. |
it will make a difference. Just not for dance. |
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