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People Steal From Artists, Artists Steal From Programmers (pg. 9)
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| cronodevir |
My Idea of a hardware DAW would make it so you wouldn't need a computer in the first place. It could require specific chipsets for the software in the box to work.
That is a lot less work than trying to protect software on a pc and failing every single time.
Which brings us back to the point, the companies that produce the protection, aren't trying to protect anything, they are trying to control what is there. Imagine a company develops a "protection software/rootkit" and this thing is spread because of the latest great application that needs protecting, said company that developed the rootkit could for instance cause some software to not work and others to work, and for the user this will be reflected in the format of "this software is good, this software is bad", so anyone with this rootkit could for instance, have any opensource software they try to run,fail, because a root kit is causing it to fail. And thus the person would get a bad idea about OS software.
BUT WAIT THIS ALREADY HAPPENS IN ANTIVIRUS TECHNOLOGY :O ....most popular antivirus technology will recognize many opensource programs and mark them as malware, the same with any type of 'legal' software that circumvents any DRM technology. If you have a program on your pc that breaks the starforce protection system, mcafee and others will tell you its malware and promptly delete it. But it won't detect the starfroce malware in the first place. Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? |
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| palm |
| 9 pages on one day???? geeze i thought i summed this up good enough on the first page. |
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| Storyteller |
| You did. But there is one particular person that has a say on just about anything. |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
hardware DAW, protection software/rootkit, opensource software, ANTIVIRUS TECHNOLOGY :O malware circumvents, DRM technology breaks the starforce protection system.
Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? |
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| cronodevir |
What?
For the record I didn't type that you edited a quote of mine. |
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| palm |
not in one sentience no, but in one post, your last, and i didnt understand any of those terms. see proof your honour.
| quote: | Originally quoted by palm
hardware DAW, protection software/rootkit, opensource software, ANTIVIRUS TECHNOLOGY :O malware circumvents, DRM technology breaks the starforce protection system.
Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
What?
For the record I didn't type that you edited a quote of mine. |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
My Idea of a hardware DAW would make it so you wouldn't need a computer in the first place. It could require specific chipsets for the software in the box to work.
That is a lot less work than trying to protect software on a pc and failing every single time.
Which brings us back to the point, the companies that produce the protection, aren't trying to protect anything, they are trying to control what is there. Imagine a company develops a "protection software/rootkit" and this thing is spread because of the latest great application that needs protecting, said company that developed the rootkit could for instance cause some software to not work and others to work, and for the user this will be reflected in the format of "this software is good, this software is bad", so anyone with this rootkit could for instance, have any opensource software they try to run,fail, because a root kit is causing it to fail. And thus the person would get a bad idea about OS software.
BUT WAIT THIS ALREADY HAPPENS IN ANTIVIRUS TECHNOLOGY :O ....most popular antivirus technology will recognize many opensource programs and mark them as malware , the same with any type of 'legal' software that circumvents any DRM technology . If you have a program on your pc that breaks the starforce protection system , mcafee and others will tell you its malware and promptly delete it. But it won't detect the starfroce malware in the first place. Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? |
ahh, spare time... what to do with it? |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
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| cronodevir |
hardware DAW - would be like cubase or flstudio but it comes in a box not on a cd, and you don't need a computer to use it.
protection software - drm technology
rootkit - a set of software or tools used to allow one to work on another pc, in terms of malware, it allows one to do it without being detected
open source software - come on you don't know what this is?
antivirus technology - norton, avg, mcafee etc etc..virus scanners
malware - malicious code, or code intended to restrict or damage a users hardware or other software
circumvent - bypass
drm technology - software designed to restrict the ability of the user in using certain pieces of software or hardware.
breaks the starforce protection system - ....something that breaks the starforce protection system
Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? - Starforce is a piece of malware that antiviruses do not detect. I find that suspicious. |
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| palm |
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hardware DAW - would be like cubase or flstudio but it comes in a box not on a cd, and you don't need a computer to use it. |
oh like AKAI MPC Roland MV8800 Yamaha Motif XS8, think its called workstations
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protection software - drm technology |
still dont get this one
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rootkit - a set of software or tools used to allow one to work on another pc, in terms of malware, it allows one to do it without being detected |
a virus then?
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open source software - come on you don't know what this is? |
heard good things about it but never seen it
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antivirus technology - norton, avg, mcafee etc etc..virus scanners |
thats programs as far as i know
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malware - malicious code, or code intended to restrict or damage a users hardware or other software |
a virus then?`
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circumvent - bypass |
ah new word to me thanks
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drm technology - software designed to restrict the ability of the user in using certain pieces of software or hardware. |
if u said protection software here id kill you lol. see second quote why.
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breaks the starforce protection system - ....something that breaks the starforce protection system |
the what???
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Starforce, a rootkit. Not detected.... What The ? - Starforce is a piece of malware that antiviruses do not detect. I find that suspicious. |
so u need an anti-starforce/rootkit malware?
sorry man im just kidding :toocool: |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Lol. |
everyone i made him shut up :D :D :D
nah just kidding man lol :eyespop: |
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| Stef |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lolo
To sum it up, here's a short list of what I'm still using. It's all legit, box or download, I paid for it:
Logic Studio 479 Euros
Ableton Live 1 upgraded successively to 8 with optional instruments: 2000 Euros.
Propellerhead Reason 3 upgraded to 4: 450 Euros
Spectrasonics Omnisphere: 379 Euros
Celemony Melodyne Studio up-to-date: 500 Euros
NI Reaktor 400 Euros
NI Massive 300 Euros
CA 5000 upgraded to alchemy 300 Euros
DB Quantum FX updated 300 Euros
Fxpansion BFD: 250 Euros
Korg Legacy Digital: 150 Euros
Sugar Bytes Effectrix: 100 Euros
Izotope iDrum: 60 Euros
What I'm using NOW already cost me more than 5k. I'm not complaining here, I'm not frustrated. I'm just try to guess why people use so much illegal software. Well, you've got a part of the answer.
What I don't understand is that we let some, if not many, of those people release records. Everyone is complaining that there's too much music being released, and too much "crap". Why don't labels and developers sit on a table and start a guild?? This is a good way for record companies to filter the crap people out. Meanwhile it's probably the best solution for software developers to get a proper and accurate list of what artists effectively use, as long as those want to accept new rules. They'd even attract more people and have more legit users by offering rebates through that guild.
Another thing: let's come back to those 5k in software. If they changed their rules a little, they'd easily be able to offer license renting with monthly payments. IF they were a little smarter, they'd add some advertising banner in the monthly software updates to make prices lighter. Imagine yourself renting a license of Ableton Live or Logic for a month or two, just when you want to try it out or when you need it, for less than a parking ticket?? I do.
Those small things don't cost much time or money, yet they'd make a big part of TWO separate industries happy.
I sent those ideas to developers, only 2 of them replied: Propellerhead, and Image Line. The others didn't even bother.
Our industries are similar in the way that a lot of crap is polluting them, that's my conclusion. :-D |
Call the guild: Come Honor Face. |
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