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Fascism the only way to fight internet piracy?
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| Dave Akermanis |
For those of you who are paying attention to the ongoing Copyfight bring waged by big media in the developed world, you're already aware that France has passed its fascist "HADOPI" anti-piracy legislation.
For the rest of you:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/b...09net.html?_r=1
What does this mean?
Step 1. If you're ACCUSED of copyright infringement by a rights holder, you receive an email with your IP address in it.
Step 2. If you are still SUSPECTED of file sharing, you receive a certified letter telling you you're in big trouble.
Step 3. If you make the mistake of being SUSPECTED of infringement a third time, you'll lose your Internet connection for up to a year.
THERE IS NO RIGHT TO JUDICIAL APPEAL.
Clearly, there are a thousand problems with this: IP addresses can be spoofed or piggybacked, allegations don't prove guilt, many online uses of copyrighted content fall into exempt categories such as fair use, new business models are built on the innovative (re)use of copyrighted material, political dissent is built on the innovative (re)use of copyrighted material, ... oh, and whatever happened to privacy?
Fortunately, we don't have any laws like this currently on the docket in the U.S. or Canada; unfortunately, the "market" is preempting the need for such anger-provoking action on the part of our elected representatives.
Already, two of the four major ISPs have agreed to "voluntarily" adopt a 3-strikes rule against their own customers. They brokered the deal with the RIAA back in December 2008 -- a bitter pill dipped in the carob candy shell of a pledge by the RIAA to stop suing file sharers. Too bad they have already broken that part of the bargain.
Not only does evidence show us that enforcement does nothing to actually curb piracy, but global piracy rates are already on the decline - preempting any need for ridiculous measures such as these.
Totalitarianism is fun isn't it? |
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| Abercrombie |
Losing your ISP is the weakest punishment they can try to give. Big Meh. There are so many ISPs anyone can choose, how is that going to be a deterrent? Lose your @rogers email address?
I already got a letter in Step 1 a few years ago. I've downloaded about 4x as many Wii games in the last few months, than I have in 2 years with my Xbox classic before when I got the letter. |
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| Jayx1 |
| Here they just take your car away with out a trial or appeal. So im sure the net isnt a far stretch. |
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| Vanos |
| quote: | | Losing your ISP is the weakest punishment they can try to give. Big Meh. |
As far as i understand, in France now, if you go through "3 strikes", you get banned from ALL ISPs for a year. I may be wrong, but thats what i heard somewhere |
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| Dave Akermanis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vanos
As far as i understand, in France now, if you go through "3 strikes", you get banned from ALL ISPs for a year. I may be wrong, but thats what i heard somewhere |
you are banned from all ISP's, correct. |
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| Endlesswave |
Lol
Hilarious. Esp at banning the thought process and air comments. Haha. |
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| FunkyCrew |
a guy in Russia got sentenced to 1 year + hefty fine for installing a pirate copy of MS Office
and you're talking about losing a year of internet :haha: |
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| King_Mack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Akermanis
you are banned from all ISP's, correct. |
damn, thats pretty harsh.
But Im pretty sure the profits of these companies when decline severely since pretty much everyone's into pirating lol 90% of internet users will be on the list.
I think thats enough people to create a new information network amirite? |
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| Flec |
| quote: | | a guy in Russia got sentenced to 1 year + hefty fine for installing a pirate copy of MS Office |
link? |
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| exstasie |
This is completely BS and won't really do much.
The reason is because the biggest pirates out there (i'm just assuming, but I think my assumption is pretty correct) are well aware how to protect themselves my masking their IP, MAC addresses.
I'm not going to consider myself a genius when it comes to know the ins and outs of the computers, but there is enough information out there to help anyone out with these issues.
Hell, 75% of the time I don't even use my own internet connection...
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| Dave Akermanis |
| quote: | Originally posted by King_Mack
damn, thats pretty harsh.
But Im pretty sure the profits of these companies when decline severely since pretty much everyone's into pirating lol 90% of internet users will be on the list.
I think thats enough people to create a new information network amirite? |
What is interesting is that when Sweden(?) passed a similar law recently they saw a huge decline in internet traffic. You'll see IP Law stuff in the news a lot over the next few years - it's toward the top of Obama's list... ing guy is in big-media's pocket. Big-time. |
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