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Need help tuning in FL!!!
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| DJ Robby Rox |
This has been a problem for a while and something I never really dove into before.
I just basically don't know how to tune percussion.
And I have a few other questions any help would really be appreciated.
If I have a kick and a tom, how do I go about getting them to play on the same key if their different keys and HOW do I even find out what key they're in?
So far I have 2 ways of doing this but there HAS TO BE easier ways.
1 is to move the sample over to melodyne which turns into A LOT of time for one sample and another is using direct wave which does pitch detection.
But I've noticed Directwave detecting the wrong pitch for samples that are suppose to be in a specific key, like one kick drum was suppose to be A and directwave is saying A#.
I'm just looking for something where I play the sample, it detects the key, then I want to resave that sample so when I hit C on my keyboard C is the key the sample plays in and not whatever original key is was recorded in.
Is there any quicker ways of doing this?
I need to get my tuning down because I've noticed when I have a kick, bass, and tom I can get the kick and bass to sound like they belong but the tom just doesn't fit.
Any help id REALLY appreciate, thanks! |
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| owien |
well i use fl and found no real problem with tuning percussion ect. i think it comes down to good timing,so the best piece of advice i can give you,would be to try making groves with percs and toms on their own and stretch them out.
try it and see;) |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| one word, Kontakt |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by owien
well i use fl and found no real problem with tuning percussion ect. i think it comes down to good timing,so the best piece of advice i can give you,would be to try making groves with percs and toms on their own and stretch them out.
try it and see;) |
"Timing"?
Not sure I see the relevance.
If something is out of tune its out of tune how is timing going to make it sound more in tune?
If you're already tuning your percussion and not having issues maybe you can share *how you tune them? |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
one word, Kontakt |
Can Kontakt detect a key and then save it in a new key? W/out wasting like 5mins per sample? I'm trying to standardize my samples so my favorites are all in C. I hate having 50 million different perc samples with no clue what key their in. |
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| Lucidity |
Lately, when making a track, I get the melody, kick, and bass going first, then after I have those elements then I add and tune the percussion. I find it easier to nudge them into the right pitch when I can hear all the elements together.
As far as detecting the pitch, I never knew of anything besides Melodyne, and I dont even bother with that, much quicker to do it by ear, if u cant get it right, change samples. Or alternativly, make ur percussion on a synth, then you could make them in any key u want. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lucidity
Lately, when making a track, I get the melody, kick, and bass going first, then after I have those elements then I add and tune the percussion. I find it easier to nudge them into the right pitch when I can hear all the elements together.
As far as detecting the pitch, I never knew of anything besides Melodyne, and I dont even bother with that, much quicker to do it by ear, if u cant get it right, change samples. Or alternativly, make ur percussion on a synth, then you could make them in any key u want. |
That's pretty much how I do it. +1 |
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| Subtle |
If the sample fits the track then use it, if it sounds then find another, most drum hits doesnt even have a pitch.
At least i know ive never tuned a percussion hit ever! |
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| a98 |
| kickdrums are based on big pitch drops, so they usually don't have a key. so the best thing is just to find samples that fit well together, and maybe do just a little pitching by ear if needed. |
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| cybernetica |
you can try using rapid evolution:
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It can detect the key of samples, never really tested it though.
Best way would probably to do this by ear. Use everything that sounds good together. |
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| Lucidity |
| quote: | Originally posted by a98
kickdrums are based on big pitch drops, so they usually don't have a key. |
Yes that is correct to an extent but, thing is, yes they have big pitch drops that sweep threw all keys but, it still starts and ends on a key, which you will notice on a more subby kick like an 808 kick with more decay. I don't always do this but, when I do make a kick on synth, or if I make the low end layer of a kick, I will actually make it in the key of the track, and it does tend to sound better. Other times, I just pick a kick that sounds good, if it sounds off, I will adjust a couple semi-tones till it sounds right. And as far as pitch of a kick, there are many professionals that tune their kick, and they talk about it, like the one dude from Vengeance, he said it in Computer Music magazine, to tune your kicks. In the end just do what sounds good.:rolleyes: |
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| G-Con |
Just use your ears dude,
Most percs dont have a pitch but yes congas, toms, bongos etc can sometimes have a distinctive pitch.
If this is the case and it sounds out of tune either
a) use a different sample that sounds in tune
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b) finetune the sample yourself, listening to when it sounds "right" and thats it. |
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