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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Evolutionary Theory states that all life started with carbon [a mineral, rock] and hydrogen and oxygen [water].
Then it says that this mixture turned into a goo of single celled organisms.
Then it claims that it began to mutate into organisms with multiple cells [plants, algea, etc etc]
Then it suggests that some of this alge and other primitive life forms evolved into a fish like creature |
Show me one reliable source that demonstrates this definition thus far is that of evolution. Just one will do.
(hint, you might also want to examine the definition of "abiogenesis" while you're at it).
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| quote: | Then it states that some of those fishy things turned into reptiles, which truned into mamals which turned into apes which turned into humans.
And the theory states that is how humans came to be.
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It also demonstrates quite well all the millions and millions of offshoots outside of this oversimplistic lineage you've created, but it definitely has well-supported evidence to demonstrate this. Just out of curiosity, have you truly read any evidence supporting evolution before you seemingly hand-wave it away?
| quote: | | That is evolutionary theory as described by the scholars in the field. [ie, I'm not going by what you say it is, if you say otherwise, then your not talking about evolutionary theory, you are talking about something else] |
Again a source to support your initial contentions would really help bolster your point.
| quote: | | And as I said there is no evidence of a type changing into another type. There are mountains of speculations based only on the fact that living things have similar attributes. |
Before any of us presents evidence that supports evolution, I'd be very curious to see any evidence that supports your contentions of how the billions of species came to be, and many more species are currently coming to be first.
| quote: | | You don't accept a theory as reality until you have emperical proof that it is that way. If you don't have that proof, then its just another theory. |
Again, before I present with empirical proof, I would first like to see yours regarding your theories of speciation.
| quote: | | Its the same when you have a bunch of guys watching a magic show, they all have their theory of how the trick is preformend. But none of them can prove it. So you take their word with a grain of salt. |
Fair enough, so I'll show you mine if you show me yours first. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Not really. You don't need evidence to know 8 and 8 make 16. |
Sure we do, at least we did when we first learned how to do math. It may be a given now, but only AFTER we were first shown the evidence on how this is true.
| quote: | | I know what 16 is, and I know what 8 is. Therefor to know that two 8's together makes 16, doesn't have to be demonstraited. Its an inate ability in every single person, to understand how things work using logic. |
Methinks someone doesn't quite understand logic very well.
| quote: | | Logic was not developed by us. |
Logic was very much developed by us. The evidence supporting it, however, was not.
| quote: | | It is part of our resoning process. Though many people ignore it. |
Again, methinks someone doesn't quite understand logic very well. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Not really. You don't need evidence to know 8 and 8 make 16.
I know what 16 is, and I know what 8 is. Therefor to know that two 8's together makes 16, doesn't have to be demonstraited. Its an inate ability in every single person, to understand how things work using logic. You are only required to know the definition of the 8 and 16, and the function "add". But it doesn't have to be demonstraited for you to know how to use these things together.
Logic was not developed by us. It is part of our resoning process. Though many people ignore it. |
but do you know why the sum of 8 and 8 makes 16? |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
In truth, you were never really in "this" debate. |
Sure I was, I came in, provided the proof evolution doesn't hold up, everyone disagreed, and then I [will] withdrawl. Very simple concept. |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
but do you know why the sum of 8 and 8 makes 16? |
Yes, I know ti does because of the processes which I was born with tell me it is. It didn't require any exprience what so ever.
Google logic. Take a class, do something. This is all very basic stuff. They used to teach Logic and Rhetoric in school.
I'm done. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
They used to teach Logic and Rhetoric in school.
I'm done. |
Really? You should have taken that course. |
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| DJ Damerchi |
| guys stop feeding this troll... |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Sure I was, I came in, provided the proof evolution doesn't hold up, everyone disagreed, and then I [will] withdrawl. Very simple concept. |
You provided no proof, only argument... unsubstantiated arguments based on a total lack of understanding of what evolution is. Honestly, you think a diamond is a rock and that evolutionary theory states that rock turned into a person... that pretty much tells us all we need to know about your "logic." |
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| yukii |
| i leave for 2 hrs & 2 pages :wtf: |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Take a class, do something. This is all very basic stuff. They used to teach Logic and Rhetoric in school.
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Here's the million dollar question:
Did you go to school? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by yukii
i leave for 2 hrs & 2 pages :wtf: |
fix your settings n00b |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Here's the million dollar question:
Did you go to school? |
good try but mine was better. |
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