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What's worth studying? (intellectual content / bullsh*t ratios) (pg. 3)
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnotherWay83
eggzacklee. i used to be under the same impression, that CS = writing code all day.
computer science is really about problem solving, figuring out if computers can even solve problems, algorithms, AI, so much more. programming is actually at the bottom of the rung i would say, after the really cool and challenging parts have been figured out! |
thats the thing though, and i know jbj this isnt about jobs, but a CS degree is really a waste of money, all of it is theoretical for the most part, no one wants to hire you in the industry for your thesis on ing path finding in some sort of crazy ass multi-dimensional array of lines... (well maybe one company).
A lot of CS deals with things that are either so theoretical that their implementation will never occur (quantum crypto fro example) or so specialized or so abstract that implementation solves either a problem that is so few that its solved better ways or doesnt solve anything at all but just opens up more problems.
Its basically the philosophy major of the tech world. |
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| DJ Damerchi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
A business major is probably the most versatile, useful, degree anyone can get. |
you're a business major aren't you:p |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
you're a business major aren't you:p |
Yep, but still. Within a business major, you can specialize in whatever you'r interested in. If you like art and creative thing, go with marketing. If you like math and numbers crunching, financial analysis or accounting. If you like investment banking, finance. If you like working with people, human resources. If you like computers, information technology. Etc. I'm a numbers cruncher, so my business major concentrates on finance/financial analysis. You can also combine things like law and business. There's an endless amount of things you can do with a business major. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Yep, but still. Within a business major, you can specialize in whatever you'r interested in. If you like art and creative thing, go with marketing. If you like math and numbers crunching, financial analysis or accounting. If you like investment banking, finance. If you like working with people, human resources. If you like computers, information technology. Etc. I'm a numbers cruncher, so my business major concentrates on finance/financial analysis. You can also combine things like law and business. There's an endless amount of things you can do with a business major. |
Isn't that a fancy way of saying your degree is worthless and that your job is going to be based off of some other merit besides the one you went to school for? |
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| secked |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
A business major is probably the most versatile, useful, degree anyone can get. |
Oh, do you have one of those? |
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| secked |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
If you like art and creative thing, go with marketing. |
YOU'RE ING STUPID. YOU'RE STUPID. STOP POSTING NOW. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Isn't that a fancy way of saying your degree is worthless and that your job is going to be based off of some other merit besides the one you went to school for? |
Whaaa? |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by secked
YOU'RE ING STUPID. YOU'RE STUPID. STOP POSTING NOW. |
Uh no. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
thats the thing though, and i know jbj this isnt about jobs, but a CS degree is really a waste of money, all of it is theoretical for the most part, no one wants to hire you in the industry for your thesis on ing path finding in some sort of crazy ass multi-dimensional array of lines... (well maybe one company).
A lot of CS deals with things that are either so theoretical that their implementation will never occur (quantum crypto fro example) or so specialized or so abstract that implementation solves either a problem that is so few that its solved better ways or doesnt solve anything at all but just opens up more problems.
Its basically the philosophy major of the tech world. |
sorry to break this to you, but if you want a high research position in R&D at companies like Symantec, HP, and Cisco where they pay you 6 figures to write algorithms, and sit there twiddling your fingers all day, their minimum requirements are a M.S or Phd in Computer Science or Mathematics and some other recognizable stuff that you have published. :) |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
sorry to break this to you, but if you want a high research position in R&D at companies like Symantec, HP, and Cisco where they pay you 6 figures to write algorithms, and sit there twiddling your fingers all day, their minimum requirements are a M.S or Phd in Computer Science or Mathematics and some other recognizable stuff that you have published. :) |
Thats the thing though, thats like what, 1% of the CS workforce?
How many go and end up being code monkeys and low-level program managers after getting their PhD or MS?
A good portfolio and your own talent and know how are enough, not to mention the most crucial factor in this industry which is experience. |
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| Silky Johnson |
I'm goddamn grateful every day that I realized my calling before I started something else. I mean...I was gonna be an art major, LOL. I can't even fathom how unhappy I'd be right now if I had picked that for my future.
With nursing/medicine I'll always be learning and growing, discovering new things, etc. I never realized just how important that is to me. Stagnation makes me want to crawl in a hole and sleep forever. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
A business major is probably the most versatile, useful, degree anyone can get. |
If anyone can get it (and I agree about that, knowing lots of dimwits who didn't know what to study and chose this) wouldn't that make it the most useless degree? |
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