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What's worth studying? (intellectual content / bullsh*t ratios) (pg. 4)
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| winston |
the bible
get a job |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
If anyone can get it (and I agree about that, knowing lots of dimwits who didn't know what to study and chose this) wouldn't that make it the most useless degree? |
Yeah seriously. Every moron, dick, and harry takes business, lol. Everyone I know makes fun of people in business programs. Even when you ask someone what they study, they can't even look you in the eye when they tell you it's business. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
A business major is probably the most versatile, useful, degree anyone can get. |
One of my goals is to run at least one successful startup. I would never hire anyone with a business major. Scientists only. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
What jobs does a philosophy major get you? |
one of my good friends majored in philosophy and music, then took a extra semester of business + accounting classes and just got hired by pricewaterhousecoooper in nyc, and they are paying for him to get a MBA at USC right now, before he starts the job. |
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| tachobg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
no one wants to hire you in the industry for your thesis on ing path finding in some sort of crazy ass multi-dimensional array of lines... (well maybe one company).
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Many companies have r&d divisions for people with such skills. And not just the obvious ones (Google/Yahoo/Microsoft/etc) but also a lot of science/engineering companies that need people with applied math/computing skills. Sure, they're competitive, but I'd absolutely hate to be a code monkey somewhere else working on boring stuff. For me ideas are the fun part. Software is just the necessary, but far less interesting implementation part.
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
A lot of CS deals with things that are either so theoretical that their implementation will never occur
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Sure, for certain very theoretical things, there isn't much application (yet). But there's a broad range of theoretical things that are pervasive and form the foundation of a whole lot of modern technology. In my experience, even for a lot of fairly mundane software, you need to know all kinds of algorithms to make good stuff (reliable/secure/efficient) (but maybe i've just tended to gravitate toward that kind of work). I had been coding for a while before I took an actual algorithms course, and had a huge 'you've been doing it wrong' moment. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
If anyone can get it (and I agree about that, knowing lots of dimwits who didn't know what to study and chose this) wouldn't that make it the most useless degree? |
I don't think so because most careers out there are in the business field. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
one of my good friends majored in philosophy and music, then took a extra semester of business + accounting classes and just got hired by pricewaterhousecoooper in nyc, and they are paying for him to get a MBA at USC right now, before he starts the job. |
So he has a degree in philosophy, took one semester of accounting, and gets hired by Price Water Cooper? That dude is lucky. |
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| winston |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Isn't that a fancy way of saying your degree is worthless and that your job is going to be based off of some other merit besides the one you went to school for? |
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you don't need a business degree to be a successful 'business man', a degree in business ain't bad, but if you're an engineer, mathematician, scientist, architect, then I have more respect for you, mainly because most people can't handle the workload; it's a real filter.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein |
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| secked |
| Yeah, well, Bob was wrong and now he's dead. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Lol, my mother would totally say something like that. |
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| cherrybarry |
| Anyway, a good read for CS freaks is "Godel, Escer, Bach: The Eternal Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by cherrybarry
Anyway, a good read for CS freaks is "Godel, Escer, Bach: The Eternal Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. |
Reading it right now. Wonderful book. |
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