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Breaking into the Film Score and Video Game Score business (pg. 2)
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| DigiNut |
RANN is probably right about film, although video games are an entirely different beast. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of independent or smaller game studios who would be happy to find a really talented producer. I know because I had offers, years ago, but at the time never had the time or inclination to follow through on them and kind of fell out of the loop. Obviously these aren't blockbusters like Halo or Mario, but it's like any other industry, the point is to build up connections and a portfolio for yourself and maybe make a little money while you're at it.
Anyway, like I said, I haven't been in the loop for a long time, but I do know that there are a lot of communities of game developers now and a lot of them know each other; ask around and you're almost sure to find one that still needs music. You're taking a risk obviously, the game could be a flop or even never make it out of the development stage, but that's still better than being a tea boy IMO.
It makes me wonder if you could take a similar route to film today through the growing indy scene, which wasn't around so much 10 years ago - it's one more way to not be an "unknown" - but Hollywood is also much more of a closed community than game shops, who work at least sort of like normal companies. It's not exactly easy to get a job at a place like EA, but you can still do it through normal channels if you're talented and persistent enough.
I'm not saying for a minute that I have any certainty about that working for film, though - it could just as easily backfire on you with the big fish being annoyed that you didn't pay your dues, as RANN so aptly puts it. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
RANN is probably right about film, although video games are an entirely different beast. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of independent or smaller game studios who would be happy to find a really talented producer. I know because I had offers, years ago, but at the time never had the time or inclination to follow through on them and kind of fell out of the loop. Obviously these aren't blockbusters like Halo or Mario, but it's like any other industry, the point is to build up connections and a portfolio for yourself and maybe make a little money while you're at it.
Anyway, like I said, I haven't been in the loop for a long time, but I do know that there are a lot of communities of game developers now and a lot of them know each other; ask around and you're almost sure to find one that still needs music. You're taking a risk obviously, the game could be a flop or even never make it out of the development stage, but that's still better than being a tea boy IMO.
It makes me wonder if you could take a similar route to film today through the growing indy scene, which wasn't around so much 10 years ago - it's one more way to not be an "unknown" - but Hollywood is also much more of a closed community than game shops, who work at least sort of like normal companies. It's not exactly easy to get a job at a place like EA, but you can still do it through normal channels if you're talented and persistent enough.
I'm not saying for a minute that I have any certainty about that working for film, though - it could just as easily backfire on you with the big fish being annoyed that you didn't pay your dues, as RANN so aptly puts it. |
You make some very good points here. Some of the guys I work with dabbled in Games and in talking to them it's very much like you have described. Some of them even made quite good money doing it and an advantage of the games industry is that EDM production actually has some respect for that field - they like it edgey and if you think about it, their target demographic is often those who appreciate EDM.
The indy film thing can be a viable way in to it but I know loads of guys that pursued that route but gave up after having done many projects simply because they couldn't break in that upper and well paid level. And yes, your totally right: the big boys can stop your career with a single thought if you step on their toes.
The problem with film scoring is that it;s big money and EVERONE on earth wants to do it. A friend is a working composer with some good high profile credits to his name but was asked to submit his pitch for a new smaller size film. He later found out that 370 other people pitched for it and the vast majority offered to do it for free! |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| wut happens when you have sex with the wrong girl? |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
wut happens when you have sex with the wrong girl? |
Girl? Wait you don't say...
:nervous:
Nah, sleeping with people doesn't get you jobs in the film industry talent and determination does. Like I said that would be a waaaay too cynical way to approach this topic... definitely not how I look at things. My advise is to believe in yourself and all your dreams will come true.
Kind regards. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Existo22
My advise is to believe in yourself and all your dreams will come true.
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+1,000,000. That's the truth right there. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Existo22
Girl? Wait you don't say...
:nervous:
Nah, sleeping with people doesn't get you jobs in the film industry talent and determination does. Like I said that would be a waaaay too cynical way to approach this topic... definitely not how I look at things. My advise is to believe in yourself and all your dreams will come true.
Kind regards. |
in the porn industry it does |
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| Existo22 |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
in the porn industry it does |
The porn industry is just a different branch of the film industry.
Just a different genre. |
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| Beyer |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
You could try writing some music for the movie No Country For Old Men. It has pretty much no soundtrack. If you made some great music to accompany it and spread the project around, that could be some nice publicity.
Would be hard to create music that could live up to that movie, though, IMO. :) |
Nice idea! And btw, such a great movie! :) Most wicked bad guy ever. |
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| adi_hanson |
im sick of people saying my music should be in films , i want it being blasted out by paul van dyk not harry potter ,
but good luck. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Existo22
The porn industry is just a different branch of the film industry.
Just a different genre. |
It's actually kind of a different industry. They have their own rules, their own studios, even their own awards.
(Or so I'm told... :cool: ) |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by adi_hanson
im sick of people saying my music should be in films , i want it being blasted out by paul van dyk not harry potter ,
but good luck. |
Trust me, there's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money in film music as a composer so it's not such a bad thing.
| quote: | Originally posted by Diginut
It's actually kind of a different industry. They have their own rules, their own studios, even their own awards.
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...which actually out-grosses Hollywood in terms of revenue :eyes: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
...which actually out-grosses Hollywood in terms of revenue :eyes: |
In revenue or profits? I would have expected revenues to be a bit lower, but budgets and expenses to be way, way lower. |
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