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Breaking into the Film Score and Video Game Score business (pg. 3)
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| sixofour.604 |
Make short films. Indie films, and such. If you have proof that you can compose for a film, that you can ehance the scene, then you will be better off.
A large chunk of scoring for a movie, is that YOU have to watch the film many times, and YOU have to come up with the right music that ehances the scene. You can be mozart at composition, but if you don't know about the psychology of music and its effect on people when matched with visual input, then you won't get .
Take a look at hanz zimmer and a few others guys whos name I cannot think of [guy who does music for star wars], they know how to enhance a visual scene with the right music at the right time.
Your skill in making EDM will pretty much be depricated.
If RichieV comes around, talk to him about musical composition for movies. He has exprience in that field. |
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| Dreamtea |
| One way could be to take contact with a school were they learn movie creation and offer to make music for their projects for free. Maybe u get in contact with the next big moviemaker |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by sixofour.604
Make short films. Indie films, and such. If you have proof that you can compose for a film, that you can ehance the scene, then you will be better off.
A large chunk of scoring for a movie, is that YOU have to watch the film many times, and YOU have to come up with the right music that ehances the scene. You can be mozart at composition, but if you don't know about the psychology of music and its effect on people when matched with visual input, then you won't get .
Take a look at hanz zimmer and a few others guys whos name I cannot think of [guy who does music for star wars], they know how to enhance a visual scene with the right music at the right time.
Your skill in making EDM will pretty much be depricated.
If RichieV comes around, talk to him about musical composition for movies. He has exprience in that field. |
Er, making indie films isn't really a great route to get in to scoring. It's like buying land and growing crops just to learn how to cook.
Oh, and "that guy that does the music for star wars"? Only the most famous film score composer in history and has been doing it for nearly 60 years. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Er, making indie films isn't really a great route to get in to scoring. It's like buying land and growing crops just to learn how to cook.
Oh, and "that guy that does the music for star wars"? Only the most famous film score composer in history and has been doing it for nearly 60 years. |
is that john williams |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
is that john williams |
yup. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
yup. |
man i love his work, especially the soundtrack for catch me if you can, its brilliant |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
I'm telling you, the only bit that matters when starting out is being clasically trained.
Orchestration can be taught on the job (and frequently is) and I know several well known composers that couldn't play piano that well when they got in to major projects |
Agree with everything you've said except for the orchestration part. Almost all the orchestrators have a masters in classical composition. It isn't something you can learn in a few years. People don't really know how much technical information there is to know regarding orchestration and then there is the artistic side. They are usually the reason why so many composers who just push piano keys sound good. Although recently, so many scores are just getting rediculously lazy in terms of what they expext for a score in terms of orchestration. So many scores are just strings and brass. Quite depressing. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
Agree with everything you've said except for the orchestration part. Almost all the orchestrators have a masters in classical composition. It isn't something you can learn in a few years. People don't really know how much technical information there is to know regarding orchestration and then there is the artistic side. They are usually the reason why so many composers who just push piano keys sound good. Although recently, so many scores are just getting rediculously lazy in terms of what they expext for a score in terms of orchestration. So many scores are just strings and brass. Quite depressing. |
Totally agree and sorry I didn't word it right - Orchestrators ARE indeed well educated - I was talking about composers actually doing the orchestration themselves which in many cases I find not great at all, so they leave it to orchestrators to do the work for them. I was just talking about composers having to orchestrate themselves.
And yeah, know what you mean about lazy scores in terms of quality of orchestration. So many are just ostinato's, a layer of long strings and horns. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
John Murphy really has me hooked lately, but James Horner is still #1 on my list.
Going back to John Murphy, He's done a fantastic job with Danny Boyle's films. I think he deserves a shot at a 'big one' |
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| BshidoHEAT |
Sorta relevant to the thread, there is a way to modify a Dreamcast version of Marvel vs CapCom 2 and CapCom vs SNK 2 to add your own music (and character colors, although not important in this thread). Also, they'll be a way to get your own music in the new ports of MVC2 on your X-Box 360 and PS3 (i think)
so if you want to experiment in making video game music, that maybe a decent start. |
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| Nemesis44 |
Forget all the classically trained bits unless you want to work on the hollywood block busters, but there are many types of film score.
It is purely down to who you know as with anything. I have been asked if I want to do the sequences that are shot in the club for a UK TV thriller which naturally I said yes to.
This all came about because my wifes friend is together with the script writer. I'm a DJ and producer and the subject naturally arose.
My track 'About God' was used in a short film by a Uni student which aired on National TV.
It is purely contacts contacts contacts.
Admittedly being classically trained (Which I am not by the way) would help.
It's all about being able to interpret what you see into music and a vibe that people can relate to and it also has to add something to the visual so it's a lot more subtle than writing a floor filler.
Best thing to do is to get to know film makers even if they haven't done anything major. You never know what will come along.
Cheers
Nem |
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| djtomo |
| Yep, it's all about networking. Funny cause I was wondering about how to break into the film/ game industry a lot more recently. Great minds tend to think alike, hence why we're all on this forum. :tongue3 |
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