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- - - CNBC Special Report - - - California in Crisis tonight @ 9:00pm ET/6:00pm PT
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| tubularbills |
i probably won't watch it.
probably.
incidently, i think i have CNBC in high def:wtf: |
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| Joss Weatherby |
I think that California should move towards independence so they can obtain loans from foreign governments.
That or states should be given the ability to take out these loans themselves and not have to wade through the mess that is the federal government.
Also the imperial eastern empire does not care about the people of the west. To them we are competition. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| I agree California should secede from the union. We could govern ourselves much better if we didn't have all the federal bull from the rest of the US. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I agree California should secede from the union. We could govern ourselves much better if we didn't have all the federal bull from the rest of the US. |
Exactly.
I fully support a group of independent nations where Washington, Oregon, and California now exist!
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I agree California should secede from the union. We could govern ourselves much better if we didn't have all the federal bull from the rest of the US. |
As long as you agree to keep Nancy and her silly methods of funding healthcare
Out of curiousity, what "federal bull from the rest of the US" are you talking about? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
As long as you agree to keep Nancy and her silly methods of funding healthcare
Out of curiousity, what "federal bull from the rest of the US" are you talking about? |
That federal laws govern what a state can and cant do is a drawback if your state tends to lean one direction more than other states do.
Also states like Washington and California give back more in federal taxes then it receives. If those states could keep all the money for themselves and spend it locally its citizens would more than likely be better off. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
That federal laws govern what a state can and cant do is a drawback if your state tends to lean one direction more than other states do.
Also states like Washington and California give back more in federal taxes then it receives. If those states could keep all the money for themselves and spend it locally its citizens would more than likely be better off. |
*sighs*
That people are still stuck in this antiquated mindset in the 21st century astounds me. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
That federal laws govern what a state can and cant do is a drawback if your state tends to lean one direction more than other states do.
Also states like Washington and California give back more in federal taxes then it receives. If those states could keep all the money for themselves and spend it locally its citizens would more than likely be better off. |
You mean in the direction of budget deficits?
Also, NY gives about the same that it gets in relation to tax benefits when compared to CA or WA. In 2005, NY was 42nd, CA was 43rd, WA was 38th. Additionally, I'm sure you're well aware of the spending on Homeland Security that doesn't trickle down to citizens like it would compared with a state like Washington.
FYI, New Jersey and Nevada consistently get ed the most.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/...es-20071016.swf |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Additionally, I'm sure you're well aware of the spending on Homeland Security that doesn't trickle down to citizens like it would compared with a state like Washington. |
Clarify, thats not computing for some reason... :conf: |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
*sighs*
That people are still stuck in this antiquated mindset in the 21st century astounds me. |
What? I think we could do it better if we didn't have the more conservative and slow mid-west and eastern seaboard to deal with.
Why should we have to put up with their crap? For the most part the Pacific Northwest could be very self-sustaining in terms of agriculture and economy. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Clarify, thats not computing for some reason... :conf: |
Are you joking? |
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