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lenazi
quote:
Originally posted by julien2
It is not justified now as most Anglos now understand the importance for Quebec's population to protect their cultural and linguistic identity.



*raises fist*

my brotha
:p
Sunsnail
quote:
Originally posted by julien2
As far as I know, Florida does not have any offical language other than English.

Quebec's official language is French.


I'm aware. Miami may as well be spanish though, .
julien2
quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
I'm aware. Miami may as well be spanish though, .


Well, then your argument is invalid... Florida has a large Spanish population, but Florida's official language is still English.

Whereas Quebec's one and only official language is French.
Sunsnail
Yea, i'm aware, again.

I guess i'll reverse my example. Despite Miami being officially english, there's spanish signs everywhere, because they understand that people have difficulty reading in english.
lenazi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charte...French_Language

if anyone feels like reading.
julien2
quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
Yea, i'm aware, again.

I guess i'll reverse my example. Despite Miami being officially english, there's spanish signs everywhere, because they understand that people have difficulty reading in english.


Oh, ok. But that is not the case in Montreal.

Why would they do that though ? Shouldn't Spanish immigrants integrate to English ? I thought the USA was more of a melting pot...
gehzumteufel
quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Well, then your argument is invalid... Florida has a large Spanish population, but Florida's official language is still English.

Whereas Quebec's one and only official language is French.

You are a bit uninformed. The US has no official language at all. Hence why you can go to almost any government agency and get the forms in like 20 different languages.

edit//I have been informed that the state of Florida has one declared. I stand corrected. :)
Ania_xox
I met this guy Romain from Saint Etienne and he told me that when he was in MTL he preferred people to speak to him in English because he couldn't understand QC French

I think he was just being snobby. I really don't find that huge of a difference between Indo-european French and QC French.

I remember studying the evolution of the french language in North America and historians have boiled it down to very specific reasons as to how and why french evolved the way it did in the western world. I can't remember any of them but I do recall that it was pretty fascinating .
lenazi
quote:
Originally posted by Ania_xox
I met this guy Romain from Saint Etienne and he told me that when he was in MTL he preferred people to speak to him in English because he couldn't understand QC French

I think he was just being snobby. I really don't find that huge of a difference between Indo-european French and QC French.

I remember studying the evolution of the french language in North America and historians have boiled it down to very specific reasons as to how and why french evolved the way it did in the western world. I can't remember any of them but I do recall that it was pretty fascinating .


you study linguistics and cannot see the difference? :haha:

quebec french is old time french, nothing like anywhere else.
julien2
Well basically what happened is that when the English conquered New France, all of the intellectuals, traders and rich French people went back to France. Only the clergy and peasants stayed. Now that was in the 18th century. During about 200 years, there were almost no communication between France and the "Province of Quebec", as it was called then. So France's French evolved in Europe as the phonems (pronunciation of words) changed and the language "switched places in the mouth".

So some Québécois still speak 18th century French. That is why you will sometimes hear "moé" instead of "moi" or things like that. That is actually how the kings and courts of France would speak in the 18th century (actually, that is how parisians spoke in the 18th century, because there were dozens of languages in France which have now disappeared because they were forbidden).

However, most young Québécois now speak international French. The only difference is in vocabulary and expression. We have our own dialect for those hehe. Still, some stupis French people like to patronize Québécois. They think we have an accent. It's just as ridiculous as saying the "British accent". There is no British accent and there is no Québécois accent. It's simply different dialects.

But still, every Québécois can speak French as well as a Parisian if they really want to. We just don't want to sound like them :p

lenazi
tse la.
Sunsnail
When i was in france my family was laughing at how you guys pronounced beurre
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