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The nanny state is at it again:Transport minister eyes rule 4 mandatory life jackets (pg. 2)
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| Abercrombie |
well, ya know what I mean!
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
I assume the law would only be for personal watercraft and small boats (I dont know the proper word for those kinds of boats).... but would cruise boats count? Imagine getting married on one and having to wear a life jacket :wtf: |
Why would they only for personal watercraft? It would be more important on larger boats because there are more people on them and more lives would be saved if a large boat capsized.
You already need to wear a lifejacket for a jetski or sailboard. Common sense would have it to be our own judges for safety on a canoe or rowboat. The jackets have to be easily accessible by law. For canoeists, I do see the possibility for perhaps considering a law. The only time I ever capcised a canoe is in white water rapids in the eagle river La Verendrie in Quebec, but that's understandable, and I still wear one in calm waters, even though I am a strong swimmer... but we have some limits |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Why would they only for personal watercraft? It would be more important on larger boats because there are more people on them and more lives would be saved if a large boat capsized.
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But whats the chance of the River Gambler being capsized.... unless a dj dropped some massive tune and destroyed the boat :p
But really how often do people drown when on these big boats?? Isnt it the 2-4 (or maybe a bit more) seater speed boats that are more 'dangerous' |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| I can understand the reasoning behind it for personal watercrafts and small boats and I'm actually surprised it hasn't been enforced a long time ago. I can't remember the last time I wore a life jacket while boating....probably haven't worn one since I was 14 or 15. It really is no different then wearing a seatbelt in a car. |
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| Orko |
It would be better to make swimming a mandatory credit in school like art, or English. Every kid should be able to attend swimming courses.
, if you are sitting in some small lagoon, fishing, with no other boats around, what's going to happen? Some random tidal wave comes from no where, and capsizes your boat?
Wearing a seat belt, and a life vest are not the same thing. If you are in a car crash, you cannot learn skills to try and prevent injury or death. If you fall in the water, and can swim, you can survive. |
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| chinamon |
i think it is good to have mandatory life jackets on a boat. if people are stupid enough to not wear one then it is about time for the law to force you to wear it.
if seatbelts are mandatory because it can save your life then so should life jackets. |
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| Intangible |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
It would be better to make swimming a mandatory credit in school like art, or English. Every kid should be able to attend swimming courses.
, if you are sitting in some small lagoon, fishing, with no other boats around, what's going to happen? Some random tidal wave comes from no where, and capsizes your boat?
Wearing a seat belt, and a life vest are not the same thing. If you are in a car crash, you cannot learn skills to try and prevent injury or death. If you fall in the water, and can swim, you can survive. |
Reminds me of this:
http://www.infantswim.com/your-child/index.html
Teaching babies 6-12 months to roll over on their backs if they fall in water.
There was an interseting read in the globe and mail about it. Apparently its very controversial as some of their training methods are very traumatic to babies and it also provides a false sense of security to parents.
I do think manditory swim lessons is a great idea - however super expensive for tax payers. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
It would be better to make swimming a mandatory credit in school like art, or English. Every kid should be able to attend swimming courses.
, if you are sitting in some small lagoon, fishing, with no other boats around, what's going to happen? Some random tidal wave comes from no where, and capsizes your boat?
Wearing a seat belt, and a life vest are not the same thing. If you are in a car crash, you cannot learn skills to try and prevent injury or death. If you fall in the water, and can swim, you can survive. |
So you are sitting in a small lagoon, fishing, with no other boats around and all of a sudden you catch a fish. In your excitment, you stand up but trip over the anchor rope, you hit your head on the side of the boat and fall over the side. To bad you didn't have your life jacket on. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Wearing a seat belt, and a life vest are not the same thing. If you are in a car crash, you cannot learn skills to try and prevent injury or death. If you fall in the water, and can swim, you can survive. |
wrong. there are times when there is an undercurrent that can suck a swimmer under and drown them. only a life jacket would've helped save them.
also if multiple people are in the water and a good swimmer tries to rescue a potential drowing victim, that good swimmer could end up drowning if he/she is not wearing a life jacket because the victim would be in such a frenzy and try to use the rescuer as a floatation device. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
But whats the chance of the River Gambler being capsized.... unless a dj dropped some massive tune and destroyed the boat :p
But really how often do people drown when on these big boats?? Isnt it the 2-4 (or maybe a bit more) seater speed boats that are more 'dangerous' |
The Titanic was supposed to be unsinkable too.
The diesel tanks on a party boat can explode, leaving no time to find a lifejacket while your'e on fire. You'd need to jump in the water right away, and the mandatory life jacket would have saved your life, no?
I just find it stupid for laws being proposed for common sense all the time. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I just find it stupid for laws being proposed for common sense all the time. |
dont blame the government for proposing laws for common sense. if people had common sense then there would be no stupid proposed laws. blame the stupid people. |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
So you are sitting in a small lagoon, fishing, with no other boats around and all of a sudden you catch a fish. In your excitment, you stand up but trip over the anchor rope, you hit your head on the side of the boat and fall over the side. To bad you didn't have your life jacket on. |
And what happens when you land face down? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
dont blame the government for proposing laws for common sense. if people had common sense then there would be no stupid proposed laws. blame the stupid people. |
Agreed. What we really need to ban is stupidity, and avoid all these overbearing laws right from the start. |
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