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The nanny state is at it again:Transport minister eyes rule 4 mandatory life jackets (pg. 3)
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
And what happens when you land face down? |
if you landed face up or face down without a life jacket you would still drown if you were unconscious. your chances of survival would be a lot higher if you had a life jacket on.
once again, this would all make sense if you had common sense. lol |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
And what happens when you land face down? |
A properly fitted lifejacket will not allow you to stay face down |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
dont blame the government for proposing laws for common sense. if people had common sense then there would be no stupid proposed laws. blame the stupid people. |
Why make laws for 99% (for ex.) of the population for the 1% of stupid people?
If the stupid people are that stupid, then natural selection should prevail, not the law. |
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| FunkyCrew |
^ agreed with Aj
if anything, people should be STRONGLY ADVISED to wear life jackets, maybe we need more advisory posters around those areas where people use big/small boats, go swimming etc
this is like making everyone wear a protective helmet while walking underneath a building which has construction going on higher up |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Why make laws for 99% (for ex.) of the population for the 1% of stupid people?
If the stupid people are that stupid, then natural selection should prevail, not the law. |
You realize that the amount of stupid people that make up the population is infinitely larger than 1%, right? I'd say it's well over half. Lol. |
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| aLLsTaR bEn |
The law already makes you wear a life jacket while playing water sports and I really believe in this law. I firmly follow wearing a life jacket when ever in tow behind a boat. It has come in handy more then once. Unfortunately for the people that died this past weekend in Muskoka, I don’t think a life jacket made a huge difference. the Tunnel hull boats that they made reference too are built for speed, and for it to cart wheel my educated guess would be it was going at least 70-90mph and hit a heavy gust of wind...depending on how they landed the life jacket would allow them to float, but hitting water at that speed in like getting hit by a truck and if your unconcious it really doesn't help. Another issue arises in these large bodies of water, if something does happen it is often too late by the time help arrives.
I believe education is more needed then life jackets for people in boats. Stating Sept 15th the boat drivers licenses are much over do since most people think that driving a boat is much like a car...big mistake. If people know how to opperate their boats safely, and know the laws, this will minimize accidents and promote safe boating for all. Most deaths that occur in water are by swimmers, not boaters. And when you enter the water by a dam after a rain storm, who is really to blame? Any sound person would think maybe this isn’t such a bright idea... but it is human nature to be a dare devil...and such some pay the price of their decisions. Think with you head, not your ego... |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
You realize that the amount of stupid people that make up the population is infinitely larger than 1%, right? I'd say it's well over half. Lol. |
There's definitely less than 1% of all boaters that have or will die of drowning. |
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| Jayx1 |
We need a conservative majority..
im sick of them acting like pseudo liberals.
Ive just written MP Lois Brown about this. Ridiculous! |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
My parents have lied to me my entire life... I always thought it was law to wear life jackets |
LOL! Oh Barrie... you're awesome. hahahahaha
(see ya tuesday night! lol) |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
dont blame the government for proposing laws for common sense. if people had common sense then there would be no stupid proposed laws. blame the stupid people. |
Yes, but then by having these laws, common sense is even further lost... to the point where we have even less (almost no) common sense collectively in the end.
Let many more ‘stupid ppl’ die from these bad or ignorant judgment calls (which, by the way, are and should be their stupid calls to make; the government shouldn’t be protecting us from ourselves, imo!) … you'll eventually see it become more common sense to consider wearing lifejackets when out on the water...
Common sense is something that needs to return to much of the world. Making it a law doesn’t bring back our common sense... because you’re only doing it because its illegal NOT to do it, not because you see the real value and sense of it. Your fear of punishment is making you wear the jacket, not your good sense of why it could be important to wear one.
But that’s not to say the province shouldn’t do anything at all. For sure it should… how about further and better spreading the word about water and/or boating safety. Increase efforts to enlighten the public abt this issue. There’s something the government should be doing for us. Not mandating what we can and cannot do; ppl should be able to make an informed decision abt their own safety – weighing the merits how they wish, smartly or foolishly. Get the word out there…what we chose to do with it is up to us.
(This said, I can see a very good rationale and argument for mandating them for those under a certain age (14? 16? 18?), who it can be said aren’t able to make a proper informed decision on the matter because they are too young.)
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Why make laws for 99% (for ex.) of the population for the 1% of stupid people?
If the stupid people are that stupid, then natural selection should prevail, not the law. |
THANK YOU! On both parts! Exactly. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Yes, but then by having these laws, common sense is even further lost... |
you cannot lose something that was not there to begin with. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
you cannot lose something that was not there to begin with. |
Fair enough, that is why I'm in the frame of mind that I understand rules are there for our protection however there IS such a thing as too much control for that sake. People will do what they do regardless so having a billion rules just defeats the purpose. |
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