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Rythmic chords and pads how do you do it?
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| Sonic_c |
I hear tracks where the lead say a piano is changing chords rythmically sometimes half way through a bar for instance. The pad however stays the same you couldnt for arguements sake use a pad if you change chords 3 times in a bar the attack of the sound is not quick enough.
If the lead is jumping around can the pad stay the same how do you do it from a harmonic perspecitve?
Sorry i really didnt explain very well if yo know and can decipher then thanks :) |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Example tracks? |
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| floyd741 |
| i totally know what you mean but I don't know technically how it's done. You can try changing the chord but using the same bass note, or just use other chords in the same scale. Or just experiment and if it sounds good then its good. |
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| Kysora |
Do you mean, how do people have different chords playing around a pad playing one static note without it sounding dissonant?
Every note is part of three basic chords in a scale. If you're writing a song in C major and you have a pad playing G, you can have a piano play a I, iii or V chord, since those all use G in the chord (CEG, EGB, GBD). Using multiple inversions of those chords give you 9 chord choices per note per scale, so it's not too difficult. You have even more options getting into 7ths, 9ths, etc, but then you really need to know what you're doing it keep it from sounding dissonant. |
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| Sonic_c |
Yes basically I listen to tracks and it will have a pad playing to thicken out the texture but some really nice emotional piano chords over the top changing to quick for the pad. As far as I can tell the pad remains at a constant pitch but it never sounds out when the chords are played around it. Was just wondering how its possible to have a pad playing C major say and the chords jumping all around.
But the whole having the pad play a note from all chords makes sense. |
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| Blahzaay |
Sometimes the "attack" on the AMP envelope of those pads are probably quite large, meaning the sound takes a while to reach full volume after the key is pressed. This would give it the perception that it is kinda slow moving if that makes sense. So you wouldn't want to be hammering away at keyboard when playing a pad sound.
This might not be what you are talking about but that's what came to my mind when you asked the question.... |
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| Zombie0729 |
| or it could be playing a power chord and that way it never sounds dissonant, show us an example |
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| Zombie0729 |
totally! but where are the chords? and where are the pads? and what thread are you in? |
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| noicuc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0729
totally! but where are the chords? and where are the pads? and what thread are you in? |
The plucky Saw is playing
I-IV-V
while the bassy pad is just playing I
Thats about it.. 3 chords playing supported by 1 pad |
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| PutBoy |
As long as it's all in the same scale, it will sound fine. Learn some musical theory. There's a difference between key and chords.
D Minor is in the C Major scale, so you could have two instrument playing D Minor and C major, and it will sound just fine, because there are both in the C Major scale. |
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| Sonic_c |
I have just got a qualification in music theory lol.
I know they are in the same scale and what your getting at is for example if you play F maj [F A C] and another intrument plays A minor [A C E] then the 'E' in A minor is in fact the 7th of F major therefore it sounds ok.
Here is where that falls down though If i play F major [working in c major] on the pad and then hit chord vii in c major scale [B dim] not the best chord or example i know then the B dim is acting as the 4th 6th and root of the F major chord and you cant play the root 3rd 4th 5th 6th and root again without it sounding bad right?
F A C
B D F
See?
So is the answer to my question if your going to do that have a static pad make sure just to use chords that share harmonics with the pad. Like what Kysora said? |
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