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What is worse? Cuba or North Korea? (pg. 2)
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| Groundhog Boy |
| The only reason that you think N. Korea is a greater danger is that it has a closer proximity to your home. It has nothing to do with national security, just your own. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
If people are living longer in Cuba than in the States, does that not indicate that, somehow, basic necessities are being met? |
So the fact that the government covers going to the doctor means that basic necessities are met?
Seriously?
And Nou, the fact that they can or can't trade with us is only a small part. Let me go find my thread I created about the Cuban embargo |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
The only reason that you think N. Korea is a greater danger is that it has a closer proximity to your home. It has nothing to do with national security, just your own. |
Who mentioned national security? /end |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Who mentioned national security? /end |
You really think that Nou's NW Pacific loving ass cares about the plight of the North Korean population? It's really not hard to read between the lines. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
You really think that Nou's NW Pacific loving ass cares about the plight of the North Korean population? |
lol no, but that doesn't mean we can't have a debate about it. |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
So the fact that the government covers going to the doctor means that basic necessities are met?
Seriously?
And Nou, the fact that they can or can't trade with us is only a small part. Let me go find my thread I created about the Cuban embargo |
If basic necessities were not being met, then they would be dying earlier to nutritional deficiencies, thirst, starvation, the elements, etc. Wouldn't they?
Living that long isn't as simple as going to see the doctor, it takes proper nutrition, exercise, shelter, clothing, etc. |
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| xtr3m |
| The two countries are not comparable. Cuba is chill, NK is the crazy one. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
If basic necessities were not being met, then they would be dying earlier to nutritional deficiencies, thirst, starvation, the elements, etc. Wouldn't they?
Living that long isn't as simple as going to see the doctor, it takes proper nutrition, exercise, shelter, clothing, etc. |
Agreed, but say you eat 1 meal a day instead of 2, but it isn't enough to keep you properly nourished. You won't appear emaciated or anything like that, but you won't be properly healthy. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
lol no, but that doesn't mean we can't have a debate about it. |
I don't really feel like there's even a debate to be had. I find it difficult to believe that even Cuban ex-pats would think that Cuba is worse once they've investigated what goes on in NK. Political dissidents don't even get the chance to become dissidents in NK. And what are they going to do, flee across the border to SK, considering how lightly monitored that is... |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
Agreed, but say you eat 1 meal a day instead of 2, but it isn't enough to keep you properly nourished. You won't appear emaciated or anything like that, but you won't be properly healthy. |
And as such, I sure as hell won't live til I'm 80 either. So since they are, how can you also claim that their basic necessities are not being met?
I don't understand how a higher life-expectancy can mean anything less than the population's basic needs ARE being met. If they weren't, their life expectancy would be lower. |
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| woscar |
| Have any of you defending the Cuban system actually been to Cuba? |
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