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Does TA believe in "the right to die" (pg. 6)
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Sigh. You're obviously too upset over your own experiences with this issue to actually debate it properly.
I can't really be bothered to reiterate my whole argument a third time, so I'll just say this: you would do well to realize that giving the common person the power to end a human life will have severe and widespread consequences for our society, regardless of what the reason for taking that life is. It's just not as simple as saying "I decide if I live or die" and nothing else. |
what do you mean? i haven't had any personal experience with this. yea my uncle died and i used that as an example but i'm not an emotional wreck or anything about it lol i wasn't close with him at all. i wasn't crying every night, thinking about him 24-7. i'm not cold hearted or anything i just never bonded with him or spent any quality time with him. it was sad to see my dad lose his only brother, that's all.
but like i said, i totally understood when i found out he almost ended his life in his last months on earth, suffering with chemo, etc... i think people in his position should absolutely have the right to die and i think doctors/medical facilities should help people like that to do it. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Jamie where did your blonde hair go? |
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is this a compliment? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
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is this a compliment? |
Yes. Yes it was. ;) |
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| Slylee |
| i dont understand why some of you think i literally have zero brains, but whatever:p you guys just have to meet me to get me i guess. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Sigh. You're obviously too upset over your own experiences with this issue to actually debate it properly.
I can't really be bothered to reiterate my whole argument a third time, so I'll just say this: you would do well to realize that giving the common person the power to end a human life will have severe and widespread consequences for our society, regardless of what the reason for taking that life is. It's just not as simple as saying "I decide if I live or die" and nothing else. |
Here in the US in a select few states (OR and WA I know it is already legal) it has already been legalised. The legal framework has also been created and defined. If I remember correctly, in WA you have to have 2 different doctors say basically the same thing, you have to go to a counselor of some sort, be terminal, and you have be evaluated by a psychiatrist. I could be wrong on those facts, but that is what I read a few months ago. As such, me being a healthy human being, I cannot seek assisted suicide to end my life. |
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| we_R_DNA |
| quote: | Originally posted by palm
beacuse a funeral isnt free for the relatives both moneywise, timewise and, psychologicalwise. death is expensive and insurance helps on that. lets say your kidd die. if its insured good enough you can quit your job and worship the sadness as deep as u want, do drugs, get hookers, go to las vegas, whatever it takes to handle it. |
Funny thing is death isn't expensive; it is the uncanny ability of humans to box up space and claim it; then sell it off. That is the expensive part.
Houses follow this same indoctrination. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
wow lol just...wow. |
Why wow? :conf:
If there's anything wrong with my reasoning, feel free to point out. If you just happen to disagree with suicide, well, I don't feel like killing myself either, but that doesn't mean everyone else must live the way we do ;) |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Why wow? :conf:
If there's anything wrong with my reasoning, feel free to point out. If you just happen to disagree with suicide, well, I don't feel like killing myself either, but that doesn't mean everyone else must live the way we do ;) |
i disagree with a sneaky little fag who lost his job and cheated on his wife and then killed himself, leaving a fatherless child behind and a mother with no support, because he didn't want to deal with losing her or man up to what he did and just be a good father to his kid and eventually move on. i don't think people like that can say they want to die. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i disagree with a sneaky little fag who lost his job and cheated on his wife and then killed himself, leaving a fatherless child behind and a mother with no support, because he didn't want to deal with losing her or man up to what he did and just be a good father to his kid and eventually move on. i don't think people like that can say they want to die. |
How is it any different than our culture that has thousands of dead beat dads? |
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| Slylee |
| well i meant that he not only not kill himself, but get his together and not be a dead beat dad lol but yea, once again i see your point. |
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| gehzumteufel |
See, you have to remember to think about other ways that the same issue is expressed. Here we have so many dead beat dads that don't give their family they created any sort of financial assistance. If he killed himself as a result, his family would be in the exact same situation.
I agree that he should have just gotten his together and dealt with it. The reality of it, is that not everyone is as capable to deal with situations and get through them. |
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| Slylee |
| yea i guess i just don't sympathize with weaklings. i've been through some myself but you just ing keep on going. you cry like a bitch for a couple of weeks and grieve and move on and become stronger for it. i dont understand people who can't do this. |
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