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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
well, i was under the assumption that you can't upgrade a 32bit OS to 64bit (i was running vista 32bit); also while my processor is an athlonx2 64 and i have 4 gigs of ram, i figured my hardware couldn't handle it as well as a solid desktop.
furthermore i keep reading about how a lot of 32bit software won't work in a 64bit environment, and vice-versa. and i also read that there isn't a whole lot of 64bit software being created yet- so pretty much, when 64bit software becomes more mainstream, then i'll update.
i was mainly concerned that my DAWs, ASIO drivers, and traktor wouldn't work anymore (which they do). i had to update and reinstall VirtualCloneDrive, for example. i also had a version of Alcohol120% that i had to straight-up uninstall before windows 7 would even let me complete the installation. |
4gb of ram = you should never run 32bit. /end
This is patently false. Windows Vista x64 runs 32bit software fine. It runs it in an emulated environment. Win7 completely eliminates 16bit compatibility and a lot of legacy 32bit code from Win9x days, but runs 32 bit software in the same manner.
MOST production stuff runs in Win7 fine. Chris (mezzir) uses Win7 fulltime and he does lots of production. His Edirol FA66 took a bit to get running, but he did get it running. Him and I were trying a bunch of different things, but it works. Without issue. He is on Win7 64bit. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
4gb of ram = you should never run 32bit. /end
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the extra ram is there in case i decide to upgrade to 64, i know it only utilizes ~3gb
i dunno, in the future i may decide to update, but i'm pretty happy atm- pretty much, if i run into a piece of software that i MUST have and it only runs in 64bit, i'll reconsider then. |
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| Fibonacci |
| I am under the impression x32 can handle up to 4gb - Correct me if I'm wrong here? I had to upgrade to x64 to take advantage of my 8gb ram... I really don't have a problem running most x32 apps. Firefox, MS office (32bit - there is no x64 office), etc... all work fine under Win7 x6. |
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| coolestrl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fibonacci
I am under the impression x32 can handle up to 4gb - Correct me if I'm wrong here? I had to upgrade to x64 to take advantage of my 8gb ram... I really don't have a problem running most x32 apps. Firefox, MS office (32bit - there is no x64 office), etc... all work fine under Win7 x6. |
The 32-bit version (x86) will support 4GB, but supposedly will only be able to address up to about 3.5GB of it.
The 64-bit version (x64) can go up to 192GB depending on variant (e.g., Ultimate). |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fibonacci
I am under the impression x32 can handle up to 4gb - Correct me if I'm wrong here? I had to upgrade to x64 to take advantage of my 8gb ram... I really don't have a problem running most x32 apps. Firefox, MS office (32bit - there is no x64 office), etc... all work fine under Win7 x6. |
32bit Windows can ADDRESS 4gb of memory at maximum. This is the memory totals of ALL things. So, if you have 4gb of ram, 1gb of video, 2mb of cache, etc. Just with 4gb of ram and 1gb video card you are at 5gb. So, 4gb total addressable, subtract 1gb for your video, and about 100mb for system reserved . So you have a total of 2900MB of ram that are addressable.
| quote: | Originally posted by coolestrl
The 32-bit version (x86) will support 4GB, but supposedly will only be able to address up to about 3.5GB of it.
The 64-bit version (x64) can go up to 192GB depending on variant (e.g., Ultimate). |
64bit has a theoretical maximum of 16 Exabytes. Although Windows 7 has a maximum of 8TB. |
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| Fledz |
My brother got a new PC with Win7 Pro yesterday. I didn't get a chance to play around with it too much yet but it seems very stable, extremely responsive and he hasn't run into any problems.
I like it and I love the new snap feature :D |
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| Omega_Blue |
| im converting an avi file into dvd format and i'm noticing a little sluggishness while multi-tasking on TA, but it's not as bad as it was with vista. so far i'm very pleased with win 7. it's like they kept all the good stuff about vista (such as the general user interface) and tossed out all the dumb they incorporated in the old version. plus you can turn off UAC without having to dick around with the registry- a big plus for the layperson. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
im converting an avi file into dvd format and i'm noticing a little sluggishness while multi-tasking on TA, but it's not as bad as it was with vista. so far i'm very pleased with win 7. it's like they kept all the good stuff about vista (such as the general user interface) and tossed out all the dumb they incorporated in the old version. plus you can turn off UAC without having to dick around with the registry- a big plus for the layperson. |
Word of warning, Win7 will run many programs in XP compatibility mode if required. My brother was testing 3DMark Vantage and we wondering why he was getting really ty FPS, until we noticed the program isn't coded for Win7 and it was automatically running in compatibility mode.
Just something to keep an eye on really in case there are programs that run sluggish. Win7 will only get better as more Win7 native programs are released and hopefully in 64-bit too. It's about bloody time we move to 64-bit :rolleyes: |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
im converting an avi file into dvd format and i'm noticing a little sluggishness while multi-tasking on TA, but it's not as bad as it was with vista. so far i'm very pleased with win 7. it's like they kept all the good stuff about vista (such as the general user interface) and tossed out all the dumb they incorporated in the old version. plus you can turn off UAC without having to dick around with the registry- a big plus for the layperson. |
You never had to dick around in the registry to turn off UAC in Vista. win+r and type msconfig. Tools tab and then change UAC settings. This works in Vista and Win7. ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Word of warning, Win7 will run many programs in XP compatibility mode if required. My brother was testing 3DMark Vantage and we wondering why he was getting really ty FPS, until we noticed the program isn't coded for Win7 and it was automatically running in compatibility mode.
Just something to keep an eye on really in case there are programs that run sluggish. Win7 will only get better as more Win7 native programs are released and hopefully in 64-bit too. It's about bloody time we move to 64-bit :rolleyes: |
It will only run in compatibility mode automatically if it is on a list (there is a list that MS has for apps that flat out don't run without XP Compatibility mode) of incompatible or problematic apps or it fails during install and brings up that prompt asking if it didn't install correctly. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
sweet. the company is giving everyone windows 7 ultimate. :D
bad news. it's the 32-bit version. :( |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
sweet. the company is giving everyone windows 7 ultimate. :D
bad news. it's the 32-bit version. :( |
Just call MS and request the 64bit version. :) |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
PM krypton. he's awesome with computers. |
Turned out the CPU chip was loose. lol |
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