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is it worth spending 2700 for a mac when your just starting out?
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| crazedonee |
would you recommend a mac for 1200-2700
I been making edm for a while know
the thing is im using a pc ,and my pc is like 10 years old with old technology
yeah its slow at times ,other times it crashes then other times it freezes i have to start
all over or i loose my work .
I was at a friends house who is a photographer he had a mac pro i think it was or imac cant remember
but, he showed me how stable a mac was he had like 20 applications running at once with no problems.
so heres my question would you spend the 1300 for a mac laptop or 2700 for the same laptop with the 17 inch monitor
or just spend 3-700 for the equivalent laptop with a pc.
id like to hear from other mac users who have made the switch to mac. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedonee
id like to hear from other mac users who have made the switch to mac. |
That's kind of silly isn't it... if somebody has switched, then by definition they consider it to be "worth it."
Are you looking for serious answers or just encouragement? Windows has been stable for many, many years now. If that's your only reason for wanting to switch... don't bother. Just get a PC that isn't 10 years old and running a crappy 10-year-old OS riddled with worms. It's not hard. |
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| Nightshift |
its unavailibe apparently, but it was 599$ |
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| RichieV |
| I went MAC because of Vista but Microsoft 7 is stable so I think it really doesn't matter so much. |
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| crazedonee |
DigiNut
i do want serious answers and id also like to hear from people who did make the switch from my point of view im a pc guy and your right maybe id be better off with a recent machine oppose to one 10 years ago ,its like ancient now but seriously i may just get a newer pc from 2010 or 2011 with windows 7. |
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| sako487 |
No way, don't get that
Build your own, make sure you've got Win 7 too. Runs perfect on mine |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Just get a PC that isn't 10 years old and running a crappy 10-year-old OS riddled with worms. It's not hard. |
Precisely. Or just reformat and reinstall your operating system. If your machine is truly 10 years old, then you may benefit from a hardware upgrade.
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
I went MAC because of Vista but Microsoft 7 is stable so I think it really doesn't matter so much. |
Windows 7 is indeed very, very stable and very, very good. Personally, if I were on PC I'd stick with XP just a little bit longer simply because driver support for WIndows 7 might not quite be there depending on what external gear you have. However, if all your hardware (audio interface, etc.) has WIndows 7 drivers and they are stable, then I would see no problem jumping to WIndows 7 right away.
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedonee
would you recommend a mac for 1200-2700
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If you are truly committed to producing, and you want to use application only available on the Apple platform (i.e. Logic), or you have hardware that is better/only supported on Mac (MOTU, Apogee, etc.). Otherwise, stability is not a property natively inherent to either platform. WIndows can be jut as stable as Mac if properly taken care of. Mac can be just as unstable as Windows if junked up with garbage.
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedonee
I been making edm for a while know
the thing is im using a pc ,and my pc is like 10 years old with old technology
yeah its slow at times ,other times it crashes then other times it freezes i have to start
all over or i loose my work .
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Save early, save often. Turn on Auto-Save in your DAW software package. Reinstalling your OS may help, but you may need to look into a hardware upgrade if you machine is that old.
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedonee
I was at a friends house who is a photographer he had a mac pro i think it was or imac cant remember
but, he showed me how stable a mac was he had like 20 applications running at once with no problems.
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I would not take this as any type of absolute measurement. 20 applications open at the same time can be just a stable on a WIndows machine.
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedonee
so heres my question would you spend the 1300 for a mac laptop or 2700 for the same laptop with the 17 inch monitor
or just spend 3-700 for the equivalent laptop with a pc.
id like to hear from other mac users who have made the switch to mac. |
OK, here is the thing. One of the reasons that Mac's are generally more expensive than PC's on average is because Apple computers almost always have higher quality components as part of the package. Notice how DELL or HP will have many different models of the same PC line. Usually an entry level, a mid range, and a high end. The high end model PC is almost always fairly expensive and on par with the Apple offerings.
For example, the Mac Pro is in the same price range as a high end HP Pavilion Elite stocked up with all the options or a Dell Precision workstation. PC manufacturers make these $500 PC's because not everyone can afford a $2,000+ computer, but in order to get the machine down to that price point, they must cut some corners. Slower processors, cheaper motherboards, crappy video cards (or IGP's), slower RAM, etc. You get the idea. Apple on the other hand, offers basically one model in their desktop line: HIgh end. Period. If you want affordable, go with the iMac, but you lose the expansion capability in terms of extra internal hard disks and PCI expansion.
When it comes to music production, the more ITB you are, the more you need these more expensive features. High end processors, server-class motherboards, fast RAM. All these things combine to make the Mac perform better overall than a cheap $500 PC. However, you can achieve the same effect by getting a high performance PC. That being said, you aren't going to get a high performance PC for $500. It is going to cost you in the $2,000 range. The processors are more expensive, the RAM is more expensive, and the motherboard is more expensive (to support the processors and RAM), all because these components are higher performance.
And having said all that, if the primary reason for upgrading is high performance, then you need to be looking at getting a desktop. This is true no matter which platform you choose. Pound for pound, nothing is going to offer high performance components.
So, if you want to buy a Mac, do it because you want or need to operate on the Apple platform and for no other reason. High Performance machines are available on both platforms. |
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| DJ RANN |
IMO, stay away from Asus laptops. they;re not the company they once were. My Gf's new asus laptop is a real pain and even though the build quality is good, it's quite flakey as a system and just randomly freaks out every so often.
As pre eric's post, a comparable PC is the same money (if not more) as a mac (pound for pound, all things considered) because of the component choice, and going for a laptop, will mean less in terms of like for like performance, for more money, regardless of mac or PC.
Even though there are many paralels between mac and PC when you really get down to it, an important distinction is that macs require far less standard maintenance than a PC - and a PC if not looked after (with a fair degree of knowledge and expertise) will suffer performance wise over time, even under normal usage.
With macs you kind of know when you're pushing it, or loading it with junk, and with a PC you just always have to be cautious.
I switch from being a PC user (after nearly 20 years) to an imac and just because of the lack of maintenece and the simplicity of the OS. my workflow increase by I reckon 20%. I spend so little time making the machine work like it;s supposed to and that time is not spent on actually making music.
Furthermore, I have no doubt that if I'd thrown what i did over the last 18 months at any PC (even a high spec one) it would have come to a grinding halt in half the time, whereas my imac just soldiered on.
When I finally decied to format it, it was a 2 hour operation to get everything back to perfect and fully installed condition with all my programs and plugins loaded ready to make music. TO do the same on a PC takes my the best part of an entire afternoon.
I could go on but you get the point. |
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| alanzo |
| MACs are just PCs with clown suits on. Big expensive clown suits that steal money right out of your bank account. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by alanzo
MACs are just PCs with clown suits on. Big expensive clown suits that steal money right out of your bank account. |
...and then act all smug and superior. |
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