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Stop the USA from invading your computer privacy (pg. 2)
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TiestoInTheMix
it says "all new computers"... if for some reason it gets passed, i'd suppose all the old computers will go up in price. and hey, we can always invent some new compression type, like mp313 or sumfn... i guess i'll have to go underground with all of my 40 gigs of mp3s... and i mean like really, under the ground. |
What if NO ONE buys whole systems like ur mentioning anymore and they just start buying seperate parts STRAIGHT FROM JAPAN (and piece it all together), where they're made (and where "Policeware" doesn't/won't exist)? Then, there's NOTHING that can be done about it because everyone's getting it straight from the manufacturers, who make products thet way THEY want to, not the way a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT wants them to! |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blik
whaha the US government went nuts, I thought that the US was the promised land :stongue:
Europe rules!! |
Ur first statement's reply: I guess not... :(
Ur second statement's reply: U have that right, as well as most of the rest of the world (no stupid laws like this!)! |
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| ahlamalek |
| I think I'll move to Africa or somewhere else that has no BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT... |
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| djshorts |
i really wanna sign it but im not maerican it wont let me.
this is reallly al ur own fault you elected president bush.
need i say more |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshorts
i really wanna sign it but im not maerican it wont let me.
this is reallly al ur own fault you elected president bush.
need i say more |
Actually, it's not because it's NOT US who selects the president by vote- It's the ELECTORAL COLLEGE who makes that big choice. It sounds nuts but, that's where the millions of votes go- to the Electoral College of each party (Republican or Democrat). It's possible for the Popular Vote (people's vote) to be the opposite from the Electoral College's vote due to this stupid system that we have. Everyone hates it because the people who queue every year to vote are actually voting for a specific Electoral College, who, basically, is a second group who votes on the president. THAT vote is really the vote that counts. Isn't it nuts? |
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| Munken |
The world needs a revolution.... All these dumb all the countries governments, seems to think we're there to help them and not the other way around.
That's why i don't want to vote... it doesn't matter who i vote for ether way he's gonna me over. They don't care about the people, and they destroy all the benefits that our grand parents worked so hard to get.
All they care about is them self and how to get more money. |
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| Matrix |
Munken, first off, that apathetic attitude is what causes this problem in the first place. If everyone voted and wrote / emailed to their congresspersons, then the US would be a lot better. The true opinions of americans would be heard.
Second, as much as i dislike the private part leaders of my country(Dick and Bush ;) ) they do not control the legislation that comes from our government. This is purely the result of Congress
Next, they do have ways to enforce it. Imagine trying to go to microsoft.com to get a critical update, only to find that your ip address has been logged (and you are an american), and it has been determined that your computer does not have this policeware installed. They call your isp and you can only wait for big brother to come knocking at your door.
Sure, you can avoid this by using a free proxy to mask your ip address (hopefully it is outside of the country), but they arent stupid (as we might like to believe). They will eventually block all known proxy services to prevent that, so it will only work for a short time. Now imagine this being used on the yahoo, google, ebay, and other high profile US websites. |
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| extulas |
| The prison's are so full in the U.S. And if they are seriously gonna start arresting people... Just imagine, How many people have illegal stuff oin their computer including MP3's... I will just take a guess of in the U.S. .... .... .... 2 million people. (Theirs 47 million in the U.S according to last census) Imagine two million people going to over crowded prisons for 5 years? Thats a accident waiting to happen. :D ;) :) :disbelief |
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| nrjizer |
Im on dialup and lagging hard, so Im just gonna assume your talking about the cdbpta (whatever the its called... formerly the SSSCA)
This one was introduced by Senator Hollings (D, SC). It would basically do this:
-Make owning a computer illegial unless it had government approved copy protection software on it
-Building a computer illegial unless you were licesnsed by the gov't to do so
-Writing ANY open source software (good bye, linux), or any software that didnt have gov't approved copy protection in it
And guess who Holling's major contributors are? Disney, the RIAA, and others I cant think of right now :whip:
I also recall that the RIAA tried to sneak a little something of their own into one of the US's new anti terrorism acts... it was a section called something like "prevention of cyber-terrorism" or some pathetic like that. Basically, it would LEGALLY give the RIAA access to hack into your computer and delete any mp3s, movies, programs, ANYTHING they felt like deleting, all in the name of protecting their copyright. Last I heard they caught that little section and got rid of it.
And dont ride on the faith that something this moronic would never be passed. Thats exactly what people said about the DMCA, but it passed anyways |
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| Fir3start3r |
Let's here it for 3rd party clones!!
:toothless |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Matrix
Munken, first off, that apathetic attitude is what causes this problem in the first place. If everyone voted and wrote / emailed to their congresspersons, then the US would be a lot better. The true opinions of americans would be heard.
Second, as much as i dislike the private part leaders of my country(Dick and Bush ;) ) they do not control the legislation that comes from our government. This is purely the result of Congress
Next, they do have ways to enforce it. Imagine trying to go to microsoft.com to get a critical update, only to find that your ip address has been logged (and you are an american), and it has been determined that your computer does not have this policeware installed. They call your isp and you can only wait for big brother to come knocking at your door.
Sure, you can avoid this by using a free proxy to mask your ip address (hopefully it is outside of the country), but they arent stupid (as we might like to believe). They will eventually block all known proxy services to prevent that, so it will only work for a short time. Now imagine this being used on the yahoo, google, ebay, and other high profile US websites. |
What if you only use all high-profile sites that are overseas? Like Yahoo UK (I use that), E-bay Japan, etc... |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by nrjizer
Im on dialup and lagging hard, so Im just gonna assume your talking about the cdbpta (whatever the its called... formerly the SSSCA)
This one was introduced by Senator Hollings (D, SC). It would basically do this:
-Make owning a computer illegial unless it had government approved copy protection software on it
-Building a computer illegial unless you were licesnsed by the gov't to do so
-Writing ANY open source software (good bye, linux), or any software that didnt have gov't approved copy protection in it
And guess who Holling's major contributors are? Disney, the RIAA, and others I cant think of right now :whip:
I also recall that the RIAA tried to sneak a little something of their own into one of the US's new anti terrorism acts... it was a section called something like "prevention of cyber-terrorism" or some pathetic like that. Basically, it would LEGALLY give the RIAA access to hack into your computer and delete any mp3s, movies, programs, ANYTHING they felt like deleting, all in the name of protecting their copyright. Last I heard they caught that little section and got rid of it.
And dont ride on the faith that something this moronic would never be passed. Thats exactly what people said about the DMCA, but it passed anyways |
What if you have OVERSEAS versions of LINUX? Those shouldn't be prohibited because their not from USA. Also, with Linux, there's no Critical Updates and if their were, you'd be getting it from a site that's outside of USA anyway... |
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