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Russian Newspaper insults Canada over their Olympic loses. (pg. 4)
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| crazedcanuck |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
However, I'm blown away that they needed to set up a committee to motivate our athletes. |
The VANOC and COC are Canada's Olympic arm for these games.
Like any other organization, and a sadly normal thing for the modern Olympics, they felt the need to "corporately brand" themselves & our athletes for the games.
"Own the Podium" was nothing more than their version of CTV's crappy "We Believe" slogan.
They might as well have called it McMedal or Coca-Cola's drive for gold, and gotten more outside funding than taxpayer dollars.
Funny thing is that the slogan was about more than setting the athlete's expectations higher & motivation. It was also intended to set expectations higher for all of us. I think the athletes always try their hardest for gold, but our mentality as a nation is one of "just happy to be here". |
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| FunkyCrew |
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A short study of hypocrisy
It started with a friend (who decided to remain unnamed) sending me a link to an article in Pravda (knowing Russian is a heavy cross sometimes). It appears that the friend does not need my hardly existent expertise in all things Russian, since the article is authored by a person with a double-barreled British name - Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey.
Not knowing Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey from a Brazilian bullfrog and, in general, being wary of double-barreled names and especially their carriers, I have started googling. Thanks deity, Scott Burgess provides here the full and clear definition of this person.
I have just discovered the wonderful Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey of the pravda.ru editorial staff. I really must take readers to task for not having previously informed me of this luminary's work. Mr. Bancroft-Hinchey, who feels that "the main trait that journalists must have is modesty," describes himself as "one of the leading English song-writers of the 1980s." Presumably disenchanted with the glamour of "three Eurovision contests, three albums, two maxi-singles and five singles," he turned to journalism to satisfy his "need to talk and tell."
Scott's article linked above is highly recommended. And hilarious, too.
So, a song writer turned journalist. No problems, it could happen to the best of us. Additional googling, however, shows that, besides being one of the Pravda regulars, our friend Timothy B.H. frequently appears on places like rense dot com, mindfully dot org and other places much, much more odious than even Pravda. And now Timothy makes a case for putting the State of Israel on trial:
The State of Israel is hereby accused of committing War Crimes in the conflict with Hezbollah IN Lebanon (July 12th to August 12th 2006). We present and document four counts where the Geneva Convention has been seriously breached.
Copiously quoting from the Geneva Convention, the man uses a highly polished legal language (does he have another talent, hitherto hidden?). Of course, the vehicle of this article, the infamous Pravda, the same august organ that used to rain fire and brimstone on Chechnya, is hardly suitable for a discussion of Geneva Convention or, for that matter, of anything human or humane. But not being of a legal persuasion myself, I was in a quandary. |
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| FunkyCrew |
This is awesome!
| quote: | Unfortunately, for us Olympiad ended, said Bykov. - He would want to apologize itself before our fans. Today against us played very strong team of Canada, and from the first minute we so could not be selected from under the press, which she on us brought down.
We tried the diverse variants in order to reconstruct game and to transfer it into the zone of rival, but they were vain. We saw the very interesting hockey from the side of Canadian command, at which pleasant it was to look - what, alas, you will not say about our composite. Nevertheless I want to say the words of appreciation to our children. They tried to play and squeezed out of themselves maximum. But, apparently, the pressure, which we perceived, forged us. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
what upsets me that articles like THIS make the whole nation look awful
generalizations fly left and right
*sigh* |
well, the nation IS awful.
the only good thing are the women.
oh.... i almost forgot... VODKAAAAAAAA |
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| geroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
well, the nation IS awful. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
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that goes for you too. lol |
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| yankeeBaby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
no different than typical american bashing done by canadians, except they dont write articles about it in the national press.
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true story. Although to give canadians credit, Russians are WAY worse. They had a hissy fit when they lost the men's figure skating, even though the guy who got silver tipped over on every jump he landed. The Russians complain and make excuses for every damn lose they take.
People need to accept their loses and move on, unless REALLY REALLY necessary (I am aware that there are some truly unfair loses). |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by yankeeBaby
true story. Although to give canadians credit, Russians are WAY worse. They had a hissy fit when they lost the men's figure skating, even though the guy who got silver tipped over on every jump he landed. The Russians complain and make excuses for every damn lose they take.
People need to accept their loses and move on, unless REALLY REALLY necessary (I am aware that there are some truly unfair loses). |
as much as I agree about our ability to lose (not really there), the Russian guy skated better because he attempted harder elements - even if he didn't complete them perfectly |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
the Russian guy skated better because he attempted harder elements - even if he didn't complete them perfectly |
you have to complete them in order to be considered the "better" skater.
, i can attempt the most complicated but i know i wouldnt be able to complete them (since im not a skater) but i should still be the better skater. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
you have to complete them in order to be considered the "better" skater.
, i can attempt the most complicated but i know i wouldnt be able to complete them (since im not a skater) but i should still be the better skater. |
read the other article posted earlier = explains it perfectly
"How can you be Olympic champion when you don’t even try the quad? If you’re going to take the quad out, why not take out another triple axel and just have more of the other stuff so the International Skating Union can make it more into an “art” recital.
Plushenko had a great performance. His footwork was great and maybe his spins weren’t quite as good as Lysacek’s, but it wasn’t that big of a difference. He also had a quad toe triple toe that wasn’t even attempted by anyone else. He did both triple axels, so all the jumps were there." |
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| yankeeBaby |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
as much as I agree about our ability to lose (not really there), the Russian guy skated better because he attempted harder elements - even if he didn't complete them perfectly |
They score each element based on how difficult they are, but they take off a certain amount of points if you cant land them. He didnt. They took off points. He scores less. He didnt skate better. He loses.
If you try something more difficult and do WELL then you obviously win, but since he DIDNT do it well, he doesnt win. His scoring was fair! The fact that he still got second reflects that, because he still got high in the standings (mostly based on the difficulty factor) even after all the falters in his routine.
edit: on that note, he talked so much about landing the quad in the olympics, and just because you TRY the quad, doesnt make you any better if you cant LAND it nicely. Looks ugly and messes up the flow of the routine! |
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