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My first signing - they want something called a 'remix pack' - noob dumb question thr (pg. 3)
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| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
lol yeah, just create extra work for the remixer to have to sit there and come up with massive trance arps.. really efficient |
Since when is making music about convenience? |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by mfitterer1
And in turn your remix will sound nearly identical to the original.
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Thats all up to the remixer, the point is that the more options you have the more things you can do. Like screwing up the audio files from the original. :D
audio/midi > midi or audio |
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| Aesthetic |
my point exactly
| quote: | Originally posted by mfitterer1
And in turn your remix will sound nearly identical to the original.
It's always my goal to one up the original; thus most of the elements they use gtfo. The only things I will retain are vocals or sometimes a lead if I like the one they used.
I can't stand the formulaic remixers as referenced above that just insert their trademark groove/processing/arrangement and call it done. That is NOT REMIXING. That is being lazy and unoriginal/uncreative. |
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| RichieV |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
lol yeah, just create extra work for the remixer to have to sit there and come up with massive trance arps.. really efficient |
I suppose most remixers aren't complete noobs and the task isn't quite as difficult as it is for you at the moment. I think most remixers don't really need anything but a few key sounds and perhaps the lead for the ones with mediocre ears. |
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| Aesthetic |
| it shouldn't even be a task.. lol whats the point of doing extra work for nothing |
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| RichieV |
| Because a remix is supposed to be different. It would take most remixers more time to sort out the midi and change than just doing it from scratch. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
if you aren't sure ask.
But generally, you pick and choose the items you feel are more invaluable to the track. I wouldn't bother with a mixdown of each channel except tracks that evolve like a melody. I wouldn't provide midis except for melodic content as I think most EDM producers are ok with rhythms. Just keep in mind that you have to keep the remix pack size reasonable. |
This.
I wouldn't include any midis TBH unless you've got some sort of really interesting harmonies going on that are going to seriously confuse people.
I'd just include any samples you used, and one or two of the distinctive features of the track. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
Because a remix is supposed to be different. It would take most remixers more time to sort out the midi and change than just doing it from scratch. |
Say what? You're joking right? It takes far less time with midi as you get to see a layout of how the track was made which enables you to come to a (quicker) conclusion about how you want to change it.
If I ever deal with audio files they go straight through melodyne and are changed into midi. Just no point they take so much more time to work with. I already spend enough time on tracks no way I am interested in spending even more. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by mfitterer1
Say what? You're joking right? It takes far less time with midi as you get to see a layout of how the track was made which enables you to come to a (quicker) conclusion about how you want to change it.
If I ever deal with audio files they go straight through melodyne and are changed into midi. Just no point they take so much more time to work with. I already spend enough time on tracks no way I am interested in spending even more. |
Its still more common to just include the audio files in a remix pack, you see this a lot in remix contests for example.
Obviously its more convenient to have the MIDI files included as well, it just isnt common practice.
I do the Melodyne trick as well when im in situations like this, i dont have the patience or time to figure out melodies by myself. |
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| Aesthetic |
| How does melodyne handle fx ladden melodies? lots of delay for example |
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| derail |
Obviously there are many different preferences here. To each their own.
It seems the best bet is just to ask the person who wants the remix pack what you should put in it.
For me, I'm one who prefers either the MIDI file or just nothing. The MIDI file is handy to quickly grab the chord progression and run with it - yes, I could quickly put the chord progression together myself, but why bother? I don't understand why you wouldn't use the chord progression in a MIDI file if it's offered.
In terms of audio, I'd use vocals and any particular distinctive "hook" elements. I'd want to use my own drum samples, use my own synths for bass, pads, leads, everything else.
To each their own - as I say, ask what the remixer wants from you. |
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| Richard Butler |
| quote: | Originally posted by meDina
I usually put:
1. main melody midi
2. main melody dry wav
3. main melody wet wav
4. any important percussion hits dry wav
4. any important percussion hits wet wav
5. any important fx builds/noises that make the track identifiable wet wav
6. supporting melody midi
7. vocals dry wav
8. vocals wet wav
9. supporting melodies dry wav
10. supporting melodies wet wav
11. supporting melodies midi
If im not feeling lazy ill throw the bass midi in too but i usually dont |
A lot of usefull stuff here - thanks man. |
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