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Final Fantasy 13 (pg. 3)
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
There are side quests, just later on.
Just because a Final Fantasy doesn't include these things doesn't make it bad. It's definitely not the best in the series, and there definitely are things wrong with it, but it's been a very addictive, enjoyable experience so far. I commend Square for stepping outside the box and trying something new, I prefer that to them just rehashing the same for the 13th time. |
LOL what? Those things are just the foundation for what an RPG is, the game is missing so much more.
Without a world to explore, you're doing nothing more than watching an interactive movie. I'm told that you can't even go backwards in the game up to a point. So it's even worse than FFX in regards to it's limitations.
Keyword, "limitations". In a world where our consoles are only getting more powerful, these idiots took what should be an epic RPG experience, and locked you into a one-way alley with a few battles and lots of cutscenes.
The main draw towards RPGs, right from the start, was putting you into a world that you can explore and interact with. Where's the exploration in a giant one-way hallway? Where's the interaction when all you need to do to find the next treasure chest is wait til there's a bump to the left or right from that hallway on the minimap? You can't even talk to the citizens of the world you're saving!
FF13 is a pile of rubbish. But I'm glad that you're enjoying your experience. I can admit that I too love some HORRIBLE games. |
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| daves |
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exactly.
they are totally stupifying the RPG experience with this stuff.
It reminds me of the old Dragon's Lair arcade games... why is SqEnix striving back towards that? |
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| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
LOL what? Those things are just the foundation for what an RPG is, the game is missing so much more.
Without a world to explore, you're doing nothing more than watching an interactive movie. I'm told that you can't even go backwards in the game up to a point. So it's even worse than FFX in regards to it's limitations.
Keyword, "limitations". In a world where our consoles are only getting more powerful, these idiots took what should be an epic RPG experience, and locked you into a one-way alley with a few battles and lots of cutscenes.
The main draw towards RPGs, right from the start, was putting you into a world that you can explore and interact with. Where's the exploration in a giant one-way hallway? Where's the interaction when all you need to do to find the next treasure chest is wait til there's a bump to the left or right from that hallway on the minimap? You can't even talk to the citizens of the world you're saving!
FF13 is a pile of rubbish. But I'm glad that you're enjoying your experience. I can admit that I too love some HORRIBLE games. |
Sorry, you just sound like a butthurt fanboy at this point. I wouldn't even call the game an RPG, it's just a fun ing game. The story is entertaining, the cutscenes and voice acting are pretty stellar, and I actually find myself caring about the characters as opposed to FF10 and 12 where I ing hated them all. It seems like you're way too hung up on your expectations of what this game should be.
Have you even played it, or are you just basing your whining on conjecture and reviews? I know I felt the same way as you did before I actually played the thing. The game definitely has it's faults, and there's some disappointment with the things are missing, but it's a game, it's fun, and it does what it tries to do well. It's more movie than it is RPG, that's for sure, but it actually pulls it off well, and I'm impressed with that. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Yeahhhh, World of Ruin music just depresses me whenever I hear it. If you stopped right at the transition though, you missed a ton of great stuff. But I think I agree - Chrono Trigger was a more enjoyable game throughout. |
lol, i feel ya on that. tbh the part that i hated the most about ffvi is the floating continent. don't ask me why, it really isn't that bad.. but i've got a savestate right before getting on there and i just can't seem to get myself to play through that quick 15 minute segment. gotta wait for shadow.... /dork. and again, if chrono trigger wasn't so dumbed down with the techs, items, etc, it perhaps would be my favorite.
have you guys checked out a few of the lesser known snes rpg's? terranigma, illusion of gaia (to a lesser extent), star ocean? good stuff. i'm playing through terranigma again right now.
also, totally agree with earthbound being one of those replayable games. i've played through that ****** a billion times. still can't get that one bat that's almost as strong as the casey bat, just without the ty accuracy/hit. i think you gotta win it from a starman deluxe... i dunno. |
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| Arbiter |
So far, my impression is generally favorable given my extremely low expectations. The game is extremely linear, at least early on, and isn't without its warts, but the combat system and, thus far, storyline (which, in my view, are the two most important elements of a jRPG) are both decidedly above-average by the standards of the post-90s genre.
I'll reserve judgment beyond that until I've had a chance to play more of the game. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
So far, my impression is generally favorable given my extremely low expectations. The game is extremely linear, at least early on, and isn't without its warts, but the combat system and, thus far, storyline (which, in my view, are the two most important elements of a jRPG) are both decidedly above-average by the standards of the post-90s genre.
I'll reserve judgment beyond that until I've had a chance to play more of the game. |
YOU play J ”RPG”s? The minions are revolting :( |
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| chrisday |
FF7 was by far the best final fantasy. Truly an epic game.
Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana also 2 gems from Square!
What is it with breaking formula these days? I haven't played this latest addition so I will reserve judgement, but from what it sounds like they have screwed up with this latest FF and the latest Resident Evil was god awful and nothing like the past games. 2 of my fav games from the past!! |
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| Sushipunk |
| Just ordered it this morning. Will be here in a few days. |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Just ordered it this morning. Will be here in a few days. |
as long as u know what u are in for ;) I'm over the jrpg of late, because of this style with cutscene after cutscene. I'm going to finish it after I get through Dragon Age Awakenings, which is fantastic. Bioware really has this whole game making thing down to a science. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
as long as u know what u are in for ;) |
I've played FF8 and FF10 in the past, and both were pretty cool. I don't have massively high expectations or anything. I'm hoping there will be a little more freedom in the game once it progresses, but I suppose we'll see. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by chrisday
FF7 was by far the best final fantasy. Truly an epic game.
Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana also 2 gems from Square!
What is it with breaking formula these days? I haven't played this latest addition so I will reserve judgement, but from what it sounds like they have screwed up with this latest FF and the latest Resident Evil was god awful and nothing like the past games. 2 of my fav games from the past!! |
i like SoM due to nostalgia, but imo it's really not that great of a game. very, very repetitive. hack and slash hack and slash hack and slash. beat palette-swapped enemy and boss copies. collect new elemental seed. wash, rinse, repeat. over and over and over again. it got very tiring by the end of the game. SoM2 (seiken densetsu 3) was even worse when it came to that boring pattern. i think secret of evermore was a far more entertaining game (and made by the american branch of square, so it's more of a uhm.. ARPG(?) instead)
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
I've played FF8 and FF10 in the past, and both were pretty cool. I don't have massively high expectations or anything. I'm hoping there will be a little more freedom in the game once it progresses, but I suppose we'll see. |
when i think of "final fantasys that should not be used as a reference of quality of the series" 8 and 10 both spring to mind. play 6 and 7 homie! |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by chrisday
FF7 was by far the best final fantasy. Truly an epic game. |
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