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CD's just not worth the hassle (pg. 3)
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Rodri Santos
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Originally posted by djkatmaus
So what happens when you lose the pendrive or the files become corrupt? Pendrive's are not as reliable as real hard drive. I'll have to check out your clubs, cause I don't know that many which will provide a computer for you.


I still bring my cds along with 2 pendrives (one for each cdj) here most clubs have cdj's and a computer with traktor, vdj or another software as a visual interface and to record the mixes if you wish, i see the computer in big clubs and in small ones, it's becoming very popular i think. In fact the best club in my city has 2 Mac's and i haven't seen the equipment but maybe it's a midi controller :O

I had no problems yet with pendrives, but i see that the cd's are getting slightly damaged , no problems yet hopefully but if my pendrive or cd crash i'd just smile and put another, this happened to Armin , played the following sun and everybody is happy :D
djkatmaus
quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
I still bring my cds along with 2 pendrives (one for each cdj) here most clubs have cdj's and a computer with traktor, vdj or another software as a visual interface and to record the mixes if you wish, i see the computer in big clubs and in small ones, it's becoming very popular i think. In fact the best club in my city has 2 Mac's and i haven't seen the equipment but maybe it's a midi controller :O

I had no problems yet with pendrives, but i see that the cd's are getting slightly damaged , no problems yet hopefully but if my pendrive or cd crash i'd just smile and put another, this happened to Armin , played the following sun and everybody is happy :D



That's pretty cool your clubs provide that much equipment. I've seen a few where you walk into the booth, and you're lucky if the turntables are working correctly.

I'm always wary about thumb/pendrives because of their small size.
david.michael
I keep all my tracks on my local HD, and just use the external for backup. Pendrive would work for this, too. As long as there's redundancy somewhere, I'm happy :)
chewy dragee
CDs are a hassle, they are much more of a hassle that vinyls ever where.

Sure vinyls are heavy to carry, but in terms of finding tracks they are waaaay more user friendly IMO.

You also don't have to sit for hours burning discs.

DVS has changed that though but now you have to worry about redundancy.

Screw that, I am going to delete all my tracks and go back to vinyl :toothless Most compatible media EVER!
david.michael
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Originally posted by chewy dragee
DVS has changed that though but now you have to worry about redundancy.


That's not exactly fair, since for $50 - $100, you can duplicate your ENTIRE music collection, and the quality will never change. Vinyls slowly degrade over time, and if they get scratched/warped/mutilated in any way, you have to pay $8 - $20 to replace just that one release.

Don't get me wrong though, I love mixing vinyl :)
Rodri Santos
Lol 20$ each vinyl no way, they are quite cheap specially now the problem is finding them , in 10 years we all be mixing with cdj's 2000
david.michael
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Lol 20$ each vinyl no way


I didn't say that... I said $8 - $20. Regardless, if you spend $4.99 on replacing a vinyl, you're still usually out more money that way.

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in 10 years we all be mixing with cdj's 2000


I doubt that.
A.B
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Originally posted by chewy dragee


Screw that, I am going to delete all my tracks and go back to vinyl :toothless Most compatible media EVER!


Amen brother!
orTofønChiLd
vinyl is good
Acid John
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Originally posted by djkatmaus
Vinyl didn't disappear, it went on vacation. I'm seeing more people buying vinyl these days then ever before. Especially the younger generation.


Actually, while this is true, I theorize that it's for the "wrong" reasons: from what I've seen, many of the kids buying vinyl these days are buying full albums they could have otherwise gotten digitally or as a CD. Frankly, I think buying vinyl is just the hip thing to do, and there's not necessarily the intent to DJ with said vinyl purchases.

Although from a mixing standpoint, mixing purely with vinyl is very enjoyable, the DVS market really has that ideology covered. Otherwise, for all other musical/sonic aspects, I'd argue that digital media has certainly edged out vinyl.

There once was a time when vinyl still sounded better than digital media, but now that digital storage is dirt cheap, having all tracks as high bitrate MP3s or WAV files is not a problem. Furthermore, vinyl steadily degrades from the first time you play it, while digital media doesn't. And if you back up your data regularly (which, if you're using any computer, you should really be doing already, anyway), data loss should never be a problem. (Even in the event of a catastrophe, you may be able to re-download a good portion from beatport or wherever, anyway. Definitely can not do that with physical vinyl).

Although it pains me to say it, my heart definitely wants for vinyl to live forever, my head knows it's time to move on...

Rodri Santos
The point is that with vynil you had to count the bpms, beatmatch and it was a bit tricky not many people could to it properly.

Now cdj's show you the bpm's and some of them have an autosync button or play through ableton live.... that's hell boring and everybody could be a dj that way.

Now if you want to succeed you've to produce or eat ashes.
david.michael
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
The point is that with vynil you had to count the bpms


I don't count the BPM when I mix vinyl.


(I get your point, though :) )
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