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Sex and the city 2 (pg. 3)
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| Joss Weatherby |
The first time I ever heard that phrase I almost choked to death from laughing so hard and my brother pissed himself.
I think the complete phrase when my friend just blurted it out of the blue was something like:
blood burping vagina or something... but it was combined and said in way that was just :wtf: Especially when you are like 8 or 9... :p |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
see below... That was entirely the point, the review was criticising the film (which suggested women should not work!), not suggesting that they shouldn't.. Her comment was purely sarcastic! :)
LOL at some people misunderstanding the review, i thought it seemed pretty straightforward and hilarious :)
She was saying that SITC2 is extremely offensive to women, and is extremely racist and ethnocentric, just to summarise... |
It was not suggesting that women should not work. Again... bull.
It is not offensive to women in the slightest, and is not racist, however I will agree that it is very ethnocentric. That's just a reflection of the general American attitude though.
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
It's a superficial flight of fancy delving into romance issues faced by women on a cosmetic level and relying on standard tension and slapstick gimmicks used by television writers since before Cheers. The lead's complete inability to hold the steady relationship she seems to desire is indicative of a level of immaturity otherwise not televised since Confessions of a Sociopathic Social Climber (<-- Absolutely horrible) never-the-less it is somehow painted as having a level of sophistication which rises above the wardrobe choices made for all of the characters on any given episode. |
You want more from a TV show? If you take issue with this show for those reasons, then you can't possibly like anything on TV. It's fluffy entertainment... it isn't supposed to be brilliant. Most shows on TV are all the same... bull story-lines of unrealistic crap.
The show does have a lot of good elements - it challenges mores and social expectations of women and other elements of society, and it shows respect and acceptance to different lifestyles (gays/lesbians, transvestites, sexually promiscuous people etc.) |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
You want more from a TV show? If you take issue with this show for those reasons, then you can't possibly like anything on TV. It's fluffy entertainment... it isn't supposed to be brilliant. Most shows on TV are all the same... bull story-lines of unrealistic crap.
The show does have a lot of good elements - it challenges mores and social expectations of women and other elements of society, and it shows respect and acceptance to different lifestyles (gays/lesbians, transvestites, sexually promiscuous people etc.) |
Yes, I do. Most TV is completely . There is some good stuff out there, but most of it is just awful.
Why the low standards? Just because most TV is horrible doesn't mean that a horrible TV show is good. |
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| Banora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
It was not suggesting that women should not work. Again... bull.
It is not offensive to women in the slightest, and is not racist, however I will agree that it is very ethnocentric. That's just a reflection of the general American attitude though.
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I just view SATC as a guide for how to NOT act around men/while in a relationship. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
... then you can't possibly like anything on TV. |
I'd like to take issue with this sweeping generalization. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Yes, I do. Most TV is completely . There is some good stuff out there, but most of it is just awful.
Why the low standards? Just because most TV is horrible doesn't mean that a horrible TV show is good. |
Unfortunately, television producers cater to the lowest common denominator that give them the most views. That translates primarily to stupid people watching stupid shows.
Although SITC isn't a genius show, it is still relatively entertaining, and like I said... has some positive elements. In comparison to everything else out there, it is no worse than other shows. So if you're going to criticize it for those reasons, you have to pretty much lump everything that is broadcasted.
My point - if you're going to say something is crap, and give reasons that make pretty much everything in that category crap, then your point is moot. |
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| idoru |
| So you're saying that there aren't fictional television shows that qualify as "really, really good"? |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
I'd like to take issue with this sweeping generalization. |
Go ahead :p
I just don't think that the reasons people are giving for their dislike of the show are genuine to be honest. The reasons given can pretty much be reasons to dislike any show on TV. Unrealistic, fluffy crap = more than 90% of entertainment shows on TV. |
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| Renzo |
I honestly don't even know what Theresa is arguing. He took an issue with the show. So ing what? Just because you say, Theresa, that his assertions preclude the possibility of him enjoying any other show does not make it true. Not even close.
He very well might hold other programs in higher regard. As I'm sure he does. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
So you're saying that there aren't fictional television shows that qualify as "really, really good"? |
I am saying that the reasons that were given:
- superficial flight of fancy
- relying on standard tension and slapstick gimmick
- never-the-less it is somehow painted as having a level of sophistication
can pretty much be used by any TV show. Name a 'really, really good' show and then ask yourself if it doesn't cater to most, if not all of those reasons.
I don't watch a lot of TV, but I know that the majority of television is unrealistic, fluffy crap. SITC is no different.
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
I honestly don't even know what Theresa is arguing. He took an issue with the show. So ing what? Just because you say, Theresa, that his assertions preclude the possibility of him enjoying any other show does not make it true. Not even close.
He very well might hold other programs in higher regard. As I'm sure he does. |
I suppose it comes down to personal opinions, but I suppose what I was trying to get at, was that I don't think the reasons offered for disliking the show are genuine. The reasons are too broad that apply to all shows... there has to be something intrinsically different about it that makes you dislike it. |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
The show does have a lot of good elements - it challenges mores and social expectations of women and other elements of society, and it shows respect and acceptance to different lifestyles (gays/lesbians, transvestites, sexually promiscuous people etc.) |
Oh rubbish, its a zoo for 'exotic' animals that your average, run of the mill cretins can safely look at some unremarkable stereotypes about things they probably don't bother to think about normally and don't concern them on any personal level. At best the vapid, trite little visit to the zoo will be a 5 minute watercooler chat the next day at the office and then forgotten by the equally vapid, trite little brains in aforementioned morons. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lilith
Oh rubbish, its a zoo for 'exotic' animals that your average, run of the mill cretins can safely look at some unremarkable stereotypes about things they probably don't bother to think about normally and don't concern them on any personal level. At best the vapid, trite little visit to the zoo will be a 5 minute watercooler chat the next day at the office and then forgotten by the equally vapid, trite little brains in aforementioned morons. |
Although I don't necessarily disagree with you, I think you are too quickly dismissing the fact that, unlike a lot of other shows, this one has a tendency to go against the grain of what is socially 'acceptable'. It's at least a step in the right direction in providing exposure to the topics brought up. |
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