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Beatmatching ? (pg. 5)
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| SlickT |
| Yeah,man I'll have it matched fine,but when its time to push off I get too anxious and mess up. |
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| ne1seenmykeys |
| quote: | Originally posted by LeVouS
btw is there any info for me which can help me master the beatmatching faster ?
Peace, LeVouS |
Get to know your equipment. Learn to love them! :D No, seriouslly....get to know your equipment like you know the back of your hand |
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| Trancey Ash |
2 Weeks to beatmatch everytime
Now been 5 weeks since I got em and I can get them in phase and going bloody fantastic. ost of my mixes now are mint!
I'm just trying to learn a few effects now like a bit of scratching, spinbacks and stuff. |
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| djdawn |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancey Ash
2 Weeks to beatmatch everytime
Now been 5 weeks since I got em and I can get them in phase and going bloody fantastic. ost of my mixes now are mint!
I'm just trying to learn a few effects now like a bit of scratching, spinbacks and stuff. |
that is VERY fast!:eyes:
you must be talented, cause I don't know anybody who learned it that fast. Took me over a year to call my transitions "ok"... |
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| quddha |
took me 3 months or so messing around with VTT.
When I got my turntables, Only took me about a month to get the hang of it. I've had my decks since november 2001, and can confidently beatmatch any two songs in my record box.
It just clicks one day, I dunno. THe way you listen to the songs and everything, it just all comes together, you ears just get trained to separate the two beats and compare them. |
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| Trancey Ash |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdawn
that is VERY fast!
you must be talented, cause I don't know anybody who learned it that fast. Took me over a year to call my transitions "ok"... |
Well thats what I thought when I first beatmatched cause everyone on here said that it took ages. Then I didn't know if I was doing it right so I made a few tpes for my friends and they said it was great and that some sounded the same as the big guns. I dunno. I'll try and get my decks hooked up to my PC and I'll get a set or something on here. I'll try. How do I do that? What programs will I need to record the mix? |
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| halo |
working on it for almost 3 years now. I'm constantly getting them to match faster but not more precise. They usually start to drift off after 10-15 seconds or so, but you learn to hear it and to accelerate or slow down one or the other.
One thing I saw on most DJ's is just to cut off the bass of one track so the audience will have a harder time to notice drifting. Makes you listen to the hights more and prevents flanging bassdrums. Try to math just by listening to the hi-hats... |
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| Trancey Ash |
| quote: | Originally posted by halo
One thing I saw on most DJ's is just to cut off the bass of one track so the audience will have a harder time to notice drifting. Makes you listen to the hights more and prevents flanging bassdrums. Try to math just by listening to the hi-hats... |
This can sound really crap if you do it at the wrong time! Sometimes it sounds great but if you do it everytime the crowd are going to notice and think you can't beatmatch. vBasicaly this sounds crap becuase all bass kicks are different. Phatter and lighter, distorted or clear, soft or loud. If you just change them it can sound cheap but do it at the right time and it rocks! |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdawn
that is VERY fast!:eyes:
you must be talented, cause I don't know anybody who learned it that fast. Took me over a year to call my transitions "ok"... |
I learned it faster than that, one week after i got my decks, and i was mixing "OK", a little off, but matched anyway.
of course, i studied up on VTT for a few years previous.
now, the tough part is getting it perfect, i am still not satisfied with my mixes. i want long mixes like 2 or 3 minutes that don't drift at all, but it's like a sliver of a mm on the pitch sliders difference that can send your beats off, and i haven't quite got it yet. now, i am at that level, i can't seem to move farther i have reached a plateau.
maybe i will post a mix up here if i can figure out how. |
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| Trancey Ash |
| quote: | Oringinally posted by John Smith
now, the tough part is getting it perfect, i am still not satisfied with my mixes. i want long mixes like 2 or 3 minutes that don't drift at all, but it's like a sliver of a mm on the pitch sliders difference that can send your beats off, and i haven't quite got it yet. now, i am at that level, i can't seem to move farther i have reached a plateau. |
Man if you are mixing trance like melodic/uplifting it is really hard to mix for 2 - 3 minutes as you dont want to mix into any part of the tune as not to spoil it plus after the final climax and tune on most trance there isnt that much time to mix. You prob get about 1 min - 2 min but never 3 min.
If you mix prog then go for it. Whenever I mix prog i find myself standing there mixing for like 2 - 3 min. Prog is so easy to mix! I reckon my sister coiuld mix it. Actually na. But people say that Digweed is the best or one of the best mixers in the world. He mainly mixes prog. I'd like to see him mix some trance or to make it more exciting (watch him up) maybe some happy hardcore! hahaha I hate that !
Anyway keep working on it man! Never give up! |
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| MERiDiAN5i2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ NEILSON
well alot of mixers have BPM counters built in these days, i know it takes away part of the DJ's job, but it gives you more time to que, and more time to enjoy the choon, interact with the crowd etc. what do you guys think?! |
BPM counters might be accurate to a BPM or so... but they will never let you get it just right.
in reality, you can get to the approx pitch quicker by ear than a number on a meter... it's really just a distraction!
-mer |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancey Ash
Man if you are mixing trance like melodic/uplifting it is really hard to mix for 2 - 3 minutes as you dont want to mix into any part of the tune as not to spoil it plus after the final climax and tune on most trance there isnt that much time to mix. You prob get about 1 min - 2 min but never 3 min.
If you mix prog then go for it. Whenever I mix prog i find myself standing there mixing for like 2 - 3 min. Prog is so easy to mix! I reckon my sister coiuld mix it. Actually na. But people say that Digweed is the best or one of the best mixers in the world. He mainly mixes prog. I'd like to see him mix some trance or to make it more exciting (watch him up) maybe some happy hardcore! hahaha I hate that !
Anyway keep working on it man! Never give up! |
I don't know, i'm guessing at the length. it depends on how fast you are playing the music too of course.
I like to mix a track from the beginning to the part where it goes quiet.
for example, The lost tribe, gamemaster, has exactly 256 beats until the breakdown, i like to let the second songs last beat play right when gamemaster dies.
anyway, maybe you don't know that song, but i like long mixes |
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