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| LoveHate |
this is something i realized, that you can spend all the time in the world learning all the technical skills of production, but without creativity.. its pretty much useless. i noticed that ...more and more geeky kids are getting into production not so much for the music itself, but the synthesizers ...and hardware that comes along with creating it...which is cool and all...but without the creativity you can only go so far..
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| cryophonik |
I agree 100%, but...
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
...more and more geeky kids are getting into production not so much for the music itself, but the synthesizers ...and hardware that comes along with creating it... |
...applies to a lot more than just geeky kids and newbies - check out gearslutz if you don't believe me. ;) |
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| -FSP- |
| On the flip side, creativity without technical skills is useless too. |
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| JEO |
| It's hard to be creative these days, since almost everything has already been done at least twice. |
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| LoveHate |
| quote: | Originally posted by -FSP-
On the flip side, creativity without technical skills is useless too. |
agreed , but creativity is the main thing.
i guess at the end of the day..does talent beat hard work ? |
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| Viber |
My most listened to artist in the last 6 months is this 19 yr old hip hop producer from Miami.
His mixing is kinda ,there is ALWAYS some frequency stabbing my ears and his sounds aren't always mashing so well,but damn, this kid is freakin good! he understands the true essence of black music and his talent keeps me coming back.
As for EDM, i can point out like a 1000 tracks from before 2000 that weren't layered to death, didn't receive the proper mixing and mastering and yet most of the people here would rather listen to them instead of most new ASOT\Mainstream BeatPort material. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by JEO
It's hard to be creative these days, since almost everything has already been done at least twice. |
Not even close to true. At least for me. I usually have five different ideas for everything you just have to learn to allow and promote your brain thinking up different crazy .
When I started all I did was focus on the creative aspects; then the theory, and then the technical aspects. It seems the common route these days is technicality, theory, then creativity. |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
agreed , but creativity is the main thing.
i guess at the end of the day..does talent beat hard work ? |
Imo talent is made from hard work. That's why people should always love what they do because you spend an assload of time doing it. |
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| Teezdalien |
| quote: | Originally posted by mfitterer1
Imo talent is made from hard work. That's why people should always love what they do because you spend an assload of time doing it. |
Maybe. I dunno, I kinda think the opposite. Talent would mean you learn much faster and it comes easier imo, but doesn't mean you can't work hard either. |
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| kitphillips |
Personally I don't think that getting into it for the synthesisers makes you less talented. Someone like Aphex twin is very technically minded and very talented and original.
I think the scary thing is when someone has no love for the music and no drive to create it. But just creates it for the sake of popularity, money, gigs, whatever. |
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| -FSP- |
I'm not going to say that it doesn't happen, but those who do it for popularity, money, and gigs are going to quit making music after a few months.
I mean, we've all been there in the beginning... we sit for hours and hours and nothing pops up, and maybe the question of "why do this?" pops up in our heads. Unless the guy who does it for superficial reasons is a masochist, he's going to burn out real quick so I wouldn't worry about those guys.
I would like to say that being technical requires creativity too. You have to come up with a novel way to solve a novel problem.
Perhaps music is all creativity, both the obvious creative side and the technical side. So next time you have a technical problem, try looking at it that way, maybe looking at technical problems from a creative perspective will help. |
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| cryophonik |
Expanding upon my earlier point, I guess my thoughts on this can be summed as "meh, so what?" Everybody has their own reasons for getting into music and everybody has their own goals and aspirations. If someone wants racks full of hardware to tinker with, I don't have a problem with that.
While I firmly believe with the OP and some of the others here that focusing on the creative side will take you further than tinkering with toys will, it is also generally more difficult to learn because composing good music or a catchy hook can't be summed up in nice little paint-by-numbers tutorials the way using an EQ, compressor, FX, etc. can. But, I also agree with FSP that there are many creative ways to use technical tools/techniques, which involves creative thinking and experimentation. Who knows - maybe those geeky kids tinkering with hardware just might be the ones who come up with some of the more creative ways to use their hardware simply because they aren't painting by numbers. |
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