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Problems with Trance Creation on Fl-studio (pg. 3)
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by routingwithin
What about EQ automation ??:happy2: |
No. It generally is a bad idea for the purposes of creating space in a mix. |
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| routingwithin |
:toothless :toothless
cheers |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Again, like I said you need to ensure that different sounds are not overlapping in certain frequency bands. For example, it your kick's fundamental is a ~80Hz, and your bass also has a fundamental at ~80Hz, then you need to cut one of them, so they do not overlap. This is creating space in the mix.
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You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something.
@ the OP; you've deleted the link to your track, so I can't really give you any advice at all. |
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| routingwithin |
!| quote: | | @ the OP; you've deleted the link to your track, so I can't really give you any advice at all. |
No worries, I got it all figured out now
peace out |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something. |
why not?
sometimes you dont need the fundamental frequency in a sound due to psychoacoustics |
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| Eric J |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something.
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Try it sometime, you may be pleasantly surprised at the results. :)
Ive done it several ways. I have dipped the fundamental on tracks in the past and had it work. Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom.
But again, it just depends on the situation, that's the point I was making. The idea is to have many techniques at your disposal, so that when you are having a problem you can try those techniques to fix them. |
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| owien |
| looks like a another case solved for the ta team lol |
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| a98 |
| There's some sort of internal (master) limiter on FL to prevent clipping over -0.0db. So make sure your mixer channels volumes are low enough (or atleast the master channel) |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Try it sometime, you may be pleasantly surprised at the results. :)
Ive done it several ways. I have dipped the fundamental on tracks in the past and had it work. Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom.
But again, it just depends on the situation, that's the point I was making. The idea is to have many techniques at your disposal, so that when you are having a problem you can try those techniques to fix them. |
Fair enough. I just think that if your dropping the fundamental you'd be better off just pulling down the fader. It tends to leave the sound hollow IMO. |
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| Weisemann |
| Great thread! Thank you ;) |
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| Prototrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by a98
There's some sort of internal (master) limiter on FL to prevent clipping over -0.0db. So make sure your mixer channels volumes are low enough (or atleast the master channel) |
the default template has a limiter on the master and it sucks.
My advice is get rid of this, set your kick to around -6 and mix to that. Leave limiting to mastering and even then don't pump and squash the crap out of the mix. |
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| Prototrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom. |
Did this on my last track, used downsampling then FL's native overdrive fx 'blood overdrive' and some careful eq and compression. It's a rhythmic baseline rather than a rolling sidechained one. The technique gave it a nice crunchy sound and it stood out nicely in the mix with out compromising the low end eq's. |
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