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Direction of EDM around the world
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| srussell0018 |
It seems like over the past few years electronic music has started becoming more and more mainstream. Is this good for the genre in general? Granted, it allows the artists to make better livings, provides for larger shows in larger venues, and makes it more desirable for up-and-comers to "make it big," creating a larger influx of new talent.
My question is, is this actually a good thing? It seems as though more and more the music is being watered down to fit a certain mold that this new surge of fans want to hear. I'm all about more people becoming fans of the genre, but not at the expense of the music. |
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| Brick |
| Yeah... Ask hip-hop how it feels about that one.. :( |
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| Stories |
I don't know if I agree that it's becoming more mainstream. In the US anyway.
The proportion of people that listen to EDM is still the same that it always has been. I think EDM-influenced pop is making something of a slight comeback (akin to music from the late 80's), but that's really about it. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I see what you're saying, but with artists like David Guetta and Deadmau5 being played on the radio more, they're drawing the attention of newer "fans." New artists see the level of attention and success achieved by artists like these, and they may try to emulate their styles, thus shifting the direction of the music. You can even see it now, with more and more big name DJ's incorporating more electro/techy/whatever you wanna call it, into their repertoire. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| It is only becoming more mainstream in your country. Even then, it has been much more commercially popular several times in the past. These things ebb and flow. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Yeah, I was gonna say obviously I can only attest to what I've seen in America and Canada, but I just really hope that this new stream of pop-ish stuff ends asap. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Especially with "artists" like Deadmau5 calling for the death to all DJ's as we know them. Apparently being able to put on a good live show, mixing, and reading crowds is something that doesn't belong in that genre :rolleyes: |
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| stevö |
are you fuking kidding me? getting more mainstream? maybe in rochester, but not in most of florida, nor atlanta, dallas, pittsburg. those are cities i visit at least once a year, and everytime i go out there you have to actively search/ask around for the edm. otherwise every club is dominated by hip hop / pop. when i go online and find the edm nights in whatever city, its always ty, like the local die hards throwing ultra repetitive deep house "underground" nights that barely get by (i.e. "come out and -support- us! we need heads!"), or the indie electro nights with farty "im a hustler baby, thats what my daddy made me" music and people dress like its a competition to wear the ugliest retarded clothes and non prescrip glasses (and yea thats coming from a guy who wears like in my profile pic). the dubstep nights with 4 hours straight of "filth" vibe. even the electro house/ david guetta / swedish house mafia music that all the latin people go to ... all these events have a small, small audience compared to hip hop / pop.
hmm that might be why it is like it is now? too many genres/scenes split up the edm audience into too many multiple smaller crowds that barely hang on profit bar wise. each genre or scene has like a specific narrow vision of their theme for the night, its like a narrow spectrum of sounds/ideas, and these themes just dont mix well together in one night, they're too different. like how could you have dubstep and disco house in the same night? and then you get local feuds with people in each scene talking about the other scene calling each other's music stupid, and then calling cops on their parties simply because they dont like them and their taste (sorry this is something that happened in my local area). and the bickering in online forums has only gone up and up and up over the years too.
for someone who started clubbing in 93, to see how things have gone downhill is really sad. the technicality of the music has gone up, but the pure silly who cares if people are watching kind of fun has gone down. the number of ideas and experimentation has gone up, but those ideas just split off into different genres. and the more ideas that come up the quicker they get played out, and the more likely the ideas get more specific and limits the variety in the sets. another big factor is the desire for people to be in an avant garde elite group, to be exclusive rather than inclusive, and that influences the music produced too.
id say popularity of edm peaked right around 2000, maybe '98 - '02? or maybe when amp was on mtv every weekend? that could easily be argued forever, hard to say when it hit its peak.
edit: ok i just remembered we had an event here with soul clap and then dubstep in the same night and it was pulled off "ok", albeit a bit awkward. |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevö
getting more mainstream? maybe in rochester, but not in most of florida, nor atlanta, dallas, pittsburg. those are cities i visit at least once a year, and everytime i go out there you have to actively search/ask around for the edm. |
You should visit NYC, or even Toronto. That's where you'll find the "superclubs" full of guys with their shirts off, fist pumping on top of speakers. It's a blast. :rolleyes: |
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| stevö |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
You should visit NYC, or even Toronto. That's where you'll find the "superclubs" full of guys with their shirts off, fist pumping on top of speakers. It's a blast. :rolleyes: |
it would be interesting to have people in different cities describe their area, to get a better picture of the state of things in north america at least. the areas i mentioned i did not see superclubs like back in the day. |
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| srussell0018 |
Right, but my point is with the state of how the genre is right now, it's the smaller venues that tend to get the better crowds at least, even if it's just the huge venues that get the biggest names. I guess when you get the biggest names, you attract the biggest d-bags. :conf:
I think more and more it's just people wanting to say "yeah, I saw ______ at ______!!!" as opposed to people actually going for the music. |
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