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alanzo
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Originally posted by Beatflux
The same kind that uses pre-made perc loops.


Trance is about as generic as it gets in the drum department. Sure, you can spice it up a bit, but deviating too much gets you nowhere fast. Use drum loops or not, whatever, it's the end result that matters. A synth loop is going to stick out like a sore thumb if the listener has already heard. The same is not at all true with drum loops.
Kysora
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
The same kind that uses pre-made perc loops.


I use percussion loops.
Beatflux
quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Trance is about as generic as it gets in the drum department.
For the most part. Professionals seem to be the only ones who dare to venture outside of the chugachuga cliche.

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
it's the end result that matters.


Which is why the follow statement is not applicable:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
A synth loop is going to stick out like a sore thumb if the listener has already heard.


Not necessarily. It could be used as a backing element, but if it's used as a lead its going to stick out.

Varying remixes can have duplicate synth lines, but that doesn't mean the artist can take on their own interpretation for the synth loop. I guess if the pack come out as a "remix pack" there wouldn't be this uproar.
Anakratis
Listened to the demo. Absolute crap in my opinion...

:p
Stephen Wiley
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Originally posted by Kysora
I have four of their sample packs that I use for pretty much all of my percussion, effects, crashes, etc. It's a solid resource if you dig through all the crap, which admittedly is a pain in the ass. I'd rather have a library that's full of more useful sounds than over-compressed or useless ones, but I'm happy enough with the gems I can find in vengeance packs.


I recommend Sounds of Revolution and Wave Alchemy AND, despite not liking his music at all, the Deadmouse Xfer CD. Deadmouse XFER CD is the best sample CD out there right now IMO.
thecYrus
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Originally posted by alanzo
http://vengeance-sound.de/eng/DetailsVTS1.html

Is this what trance has been reduced to? Who the hell would use this and for what? It's nothing but a bunch of pre-made synth loops and MIDIs! And you thought NeXus was trance-in-a-box....


Steve Angello used a lead synth loop from a vengeance construction kit as the hook in his track "knas".

so much to the who story :toothless
Final Call
didn't orjan nilsen used a synth stab from one of the VEC CDs for La guitarra? Not sure if this actually applies to the use of actual synth loop riffs lol.
asdfg
quote:
Originally posted by Final Call
didn't orjan nilsen used a synth stab from one of the VEC CDs for La guitarra? Not sure if this actually applies to the use of actual synth loop riffs lol.


he probably did, his recent track Lovers Lane tends to use lots of samples from Vengeance Electro Essentials 2.

link to said samples.
kitphillips
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
I recommend Sounds of Revolution and Wave Alchemy AND, despite not liking his music at all, the Deadmouse Xfer CD. Deadmouse XFER CD is the best sample CD out there right now IMO.


Agree, although can't comment on xfer since I don't have it. Wave alchemy are pretty much all you need for kick and hat samples though.
Lascodi
Peetu S's track Footprints uses almost just vengeance synth samples the whole track, it doesnt mean its a bad or uncreative track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4meIvBH8AeQ&translated=1

Anakratis
Actually, the drum/perc loops in this pack may be useful :P
Rawbert
Yeah! a professional producer would never touch a sample pack..!?

oh wait...

take a listen to the mp3 demo of "Vengeance Future House
Vol.2" at 2'55"
http://www.vengeance-sound.com/eng/...xSampleCDs.html

nuff said
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