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| JD8180 |
I've had some a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 4 for quite some time now, and though it treated me fairly well, it couldn't keep up with technology (worked great with XP, but it's quite buggy with Vista and 7).
I have Traktor Scratch Duo, which came with the Audio4, is there anything I could possibly do with that? The Traktor software itself doesn't let me record (I think it only allows it for Traktor Scratch Pro). Is there any way around this? I used Soundforge to record with my SB Audigy, and it recognizes the Audio4, but as two separate line-ins (I'm assuming it is one per each channel).
If there is no way around using the Audio4, what other soundcards are out there that would be the best bang for the buck? Basically I want something of quality, but only as simple as a pair of RCA ins, since that's all I'd really need it for, and something that works fine with Win7 64bit. |
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| jdat |
there are many options out there
Scratch Duo does not let you record indeed.
The easiest most straight forward option is to do a Rewire / Vac type software to receive the audio from Traktor directly in another software which will then let you record.
You haven't mentionned if you were intenally mixing or not as that may mean you do indeed need to feed the signal back into your computer?!
If you need to use external mixing don't be concerned about getting a card that has real RCA ins, a mini jack - Rca cable will do fine.
| quote: | | I used Soundforge to record with my SB Audigy, and it recognizes the Audio4, but as two separate line-ins (I'm assuming it is one per each channel). |
and what's wrong with this? |
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| JD8180 |
right now my entire set up is this (whether it is efficient or not, I do not know.. I'm not that educated when it comes to wiring for soundcards) :
cdj's are hooked up to audio4 which is then hooked up to my external mixer. my mixer's master out is hooked up to the rca in of my sb audigy.
I then use soundforge and select the audigy's rca line-ins device and hit record and go on with it.
| quote: | I used Soundforge to record with my SB Audigy, and it recognizes the Audio4, but as two separate line-ins (I'm assuming it is one per each channel).
and what's wrong with this? |
in soundforge, the audio 4 is listed as two separate devices. like I said, I'm assuming one is one cdj, and the other my second cdj. is there a way to combine both of them? like I said, I'm not that competent when it comes to the software side of recording. |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by JD8180
in soundforge, the audio 4 is listed as two separate devices. like I said, I'm assuming one is one cdj, and the other my second cdj. is there a way to combine both of them? like I said, I'm not that competent when it comes to the software side of recording. |
this does not directly answer to your question but check herehttp://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202184
you are going to look into soundcard agregation with something like asio4all
read the thread it will give you ideas about the process. |
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| JD8180 |
alright after trying the whole sound card aggregation thing with asio4all, I really couldn't get it to work. tried searching for information high and low and couldn't find too much. traktor would start bugging out and closing on me when I would mess with the settings, and I just don't feel too comfortable relying on something like that.
I noticed that the soundcard integrated with my motherboard has a line-in jack. you mentioned that using an rca-to-mini jack adapter wouldn't make me lose quality? or what about the fact that I'm using the motherboard's standard device, is the quality up to par when compared to purchasing a standalone actual sound card?
I mean I'm no producer or anything that I need 100% top of the line, pure quality sound for any sort of production or anything, but I don't want my recordings to be half-assed either. |
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| n3lly |
Copied over to the production forum to see if they have any ideas for you mate :)
Good luck. |
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| kitphillips |
I love how the production studio has now become like second level support for hapless DJs.
Read this, post back if you have any more questions.
http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=101273
You'll probably want a signal splitter of some kind (buy it at radio shack) to split the audio from the master out on your mixer so it goes to both your speakers and your internal sound card's input.
You don't need an external sound card to record DJ mixes. You're probably using 320 kbps MP3s right? |
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| JD8180 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
I love how the production studio has now become like second level support for hapless DJs.
Read this, post back if you have any more questions.
http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=101273
You'll probably want a signal splitter of some kind (buy it at radio shack) to split the audio from the master out on your mixer so it goes to both your speakers and your internal sound card's input.
You don't need an external sound card to record DJ mixes. You're probably using 320 kbps MP3s right? |
in our defense, we have a lot less active users than you guys :p
in any case, I would prefer using the internal soundcard of my motherboard (via line-in) simply to save me $100. I always record at 320kbps mp3s, so if there is virtually no difference in using the internal card or purchasing a new card when recording that format, then obviously i'd rather not buy a card. if you guys believe that the internal card won't suffice for 320 kbps, then I personally wouldn't mind purchasing a card; I just don't want to buy it if it would make no difference.
my mixer has both a master out and a booth out, so no need for getting any sort of splitter as that is already covered. thanks for your input. |
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| Eric J |
| Dude, just get a RCA to mini jack adapter and plug it into your internal soundcard. Any perceived loss of quality from that type of conversion is irrelevant at this level. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by JD8180
in our defense, we have a lot less active users than you guys :p
in any case, I would prefer using the internal soundcard of my motherboard (via line-in) simply to save me $100. I always record at 320kbps mp3s, so if there is virtually no difference in using the internal card or purchasing a new card when recording that format, then obviously i'd rather not buy a card. if you guys believe that the internal card won't suffice for 320 kbps, then I personally wouldn't mind purchasing a card; I just don't want to buy it if it would make no difference.
my mixer has both a master out and a booth out, so no need for getting any sort of splitter as that is already covered. thanks for your input. |
Ah ok... I was referring more to if you wanted to record your set in a club where you'd need both booth out and main out. So yeah, basically, run the booth out to the line in on your sound card, make sure you adjust the levels right to avoid clipping, and you should be fine. You definately don't need a new card. |
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| n3lly |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
I love how the production studio has now become like second level support for hapless DJs.
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I have linked two threads over to the promotion forum, so I hardly think the production forum has become the place where the dj booth's 'hapless' Dj's look for support.
Whether you like it or not, the Dj Booth and Production forums do have a cross over. While we've kept them separate in the past, I am merely helping out some members by linking a thread to both the booth and the production forum at the same time.
Not everyone in the production forum goes into the booth, and visa versa. This method every now and again allows us to help each other out and get two sides of a coin with one thread instead of creating a completely new thread in each sub forum.
In this case a new thread was created anyway by JD8180, but that's just because i've been away for the last few days and wasn't able to help out JD8180 in time.
Please forgive our intrusion. |
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| kitphillips |
My point was, I don't think many producers go into the DJ forum for advice, and two threads have been cross posted here in the last week or so, which is quite a bit if you think about how many threads are posted overall in the DJ booth. I agree that the DJ booth has fewer members and cross posting sometimes makes sense.
I think these forums are in desperate need of re arranging. The DJ booth should be called the live performance area or something, to include more producers who play live. IDM forums are a lot better in terms of structure than these ones, but it was enough struggle to get two new mods, so I suppose a complete re design of the forums would be too much to ask for.
Anyway, I don't really care, was just an off the cuff comment. Don't take me so seriously;) |
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