Originally posted by pointPi
Why is the supersaw such a ty sound?
Because the producers often have no idea how to use it. They just use it because it's hip. Just like it's hip to produce blip blop house.
Redd
and WOBBL WOBBL
pointPi
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Originally posted by RebeL9
Because the producers often have no idea how to use it. They just use it because it's hip. Just like it's hip to produce blip blop house.
What is right and wrong usage, then?
I consider wrong usage: repeating the vocal's melody with a supersaw, kinda like Cascada.
Seriously, what's with the ed up grammar in this thread? It's either "I love supersaws" or "I love the supersaw".
And the supersaw wouldn't be so bad as a sound if it wasn't always used in the exact same way in the exact same part of every trance record. If you're hearing a supersaw, you're probably also hearing an incredibly generic record, which is the real problem. Everyone has a genre where they like the generic conventions enough to excuse their tiredness, but the entire trance genre is so utterly rote that you'll get sick of it very soon. After all, you're already buying Wolf + Lamb records.
dj christian
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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN
Takes balls to make a thread like this, I'll give ya that. For a forum site that's named "tranceaddict", you'd expect lots of trance fans here. But it seems as times change (I'm blabbering I know), so do the music tastes. Even though I'm fully aware this is a sort of general music forum, I can easily tell people love minimal, dubstep and house a lot more. Just my basic observation, correct my noob ass if I'm wrong. And that's cool, just hope I don't sound condescending.
I may have come off harsh in the past here, but I have to respect it. And most people's opinions on supersaw trance or crap churned out by the Armada label are actually justified. Most trance does seem overly commercialized pop junk. Took me a while to realize this as I've been away from the scene so to speak.
I'll just say that I do enjoy good "supersaw" trance now and then. It's mainly on a track by track basis, though. I find myself picking each track I find carefully on Beatport for instance. "To each his own" as they say and as long as the track moves you in your own personal way, that's all that counts. /end pointless babble :toothless
To stay on topic, I posted a supersaw record a few days ago. It's from 2005, but the "In My Dreams" track is one of those that I kinda actually enjoy. It sounds big, loud, melodic and makes you appreciate other trance tracks more.
Hell, we elitist don't even listen to John Digweed anymore.
ziptnf
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I love lamp.
:stongue:
"Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them? Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?"
osterzone
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I love lamp.
Seriously, what's with the ed up grammar in this thread? It's either "I love supersaws" or "I love the supersaw".
And the supersaw wouldn't be so bad as a sound if it wasn't always used in the exact same way in the exact same part of every trance record. If you're hearing a supersaw, you're probably also hearing an incredibly generic record, which is the real problem. Everyone has a genre where they like the generic conventions enough to excuse their tiredness, but the entire trance genre is so utterly rote that you'll get sick of it very soon. After all, you're already buying Wolf + Lamb records.
I'm still buying as many trance songs though as Wolf + Lamb songs...
SYSTEM-J
Doesn't really matter. The amount of trance you buy will go down, you'll become more discerning as to what trance you enjoy, you'll discover other genres where things work completely differently and the more you go back to trance, the more bored you'll be of its cut and paste nature.
osterzone
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Doesn't really matter. The amount of trance you buy will go down, you'll become more discerning as to what trance you enjoy, you'll discover other genres where things work completely differently and the more you go back to trance, the more bored you'll be of its cut and paste nature.
But my argument is that other genres are just as copy and paste as trance.
adi_hanson
I love copy and paste supersaw wobble house trance - tech fart sector 4.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by osterzone
But my argument is that other genres are just as copy and paste as trance.
Your argument ing sucks though. Yes, dubstep has the wobble and electro house has the saw bass, but it pretty much falls apart after that. Tech house has "clap patterns"? What the is that supposed to mean? It has a clap on every other beat, just like trance.
Most genres have generic conventions that makes them recognisable bodies of music. Everyone knows that, you don't enlighten anyone by pointing it out. However, epic trance has nothing but generic elements. It has millions of them. The supersaw is just one sound. There's also the massive breakdown, the giant anthemic melody, the snare roll, the one-note off-beat rolling bass, the hi-hat spam attack percussion, the uniformly sickly uplifting mood. And that's before we get onto the other synth sounds you can't escape from. Even the track titles are endlessly ing clichéd.
You'll find that people on TA bash brostep and electro house just as much as they do epic trance. We don't like generic tracks, whatever the genre.
