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ModernNosferatu
+1 Percocet ...forgot how good this one was.:crazy:
d_Verge
I disapprove. I've buried quite a few friends from prescription drug abuse, and I've seen a lot of people's lives ruined up by either health problems(physical and mental damage), jail time, social/love life destroyed, etc. It happens to be a serious problem where I live.

The high is awesome, I know, but you're playing with fire. You can get seriously ed from that before you know it. Just be very careful if you going to eat pills, and NEVER get into the habit of mixing opiates with benzo's like Xanax. When mixed there is a significant risk of adverse drug interaction resulting in respiratory depression; that's how I lost most of my friends.




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srussell0018
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Originally posted by d_Verge
I disapprove. I've buried quite a few friends from prescription drug abuse, and I've seen a lot of people's lives ruined up by either health problems(physical and mental damage), jail time, social/love life destroyed, etc. It happens to be a serious problem where I live.

The high is awesome, I know, but you're playing with fire. You can get seriously ed from that before you know it. Just be very careful if you going to eat pills, and NEVER get into the habit of mixing opiates with benzo's like Xanax. When mixed there is a significant risk of adverse drug interaction resulting in respiratory depression; that's how I lost most of my friends.




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+1 to all of that.

NOW, for Vicodin, they usually come in 5/500mg, 7.5/750mg, or 10/660mg. Basically what that means is that there's roughly 5mg of the actual opiate, and then 495 mg of Acetaminophen. So if you haven't really done a lot of that stuff, maybe take 2 or 3 of the 5/500mg pills. One good way to reduce the harmfulness of ingesting so much Tylenol is called cold water extraction.

Take your 3 pills and crush them up in to as fine of a powder as you can get them. Mix them in a cup or bowl with about 5-10ml of lukewarm water per pill, until it's dissolved into a murky white liquid. Put that cup/bowl in the refrigerator for about 20-30 min until it's nice and cold. Then take what you have there and pour it over a damp coffee filter over another cup. Squeeze all of the liquid out until you have only a paste-like substance left. After that, put the paste back into the original cup, add 20-30ml more water, and repeat the process.

After you've filtered it twice, drink the slightly murky liquid that you have left. Basically what this does is filter out the APAP, leaving you with only the opiate. It tastes bad, but at least you're not taking 1500mg of tylenol along with your fun stuff. ;)
Lews
Wait, does Buspar actually do anything? I probably have like... 500 50mg pills in my basement o.o

I stopped taking it a while ago, didn't do anything helpful for me.
Lews
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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu
I used to take them before I would roll. Then I went with out them for a long time until I ran into some 20mg pills and I would take 4 of them at once. Ummmmm, I been on xanax bars for a long time now, my Doctor says there is nothing stronger he can give me for anxiety. I'm on 8mgs a day of xanax so 120 bars a month. Anyone know of any pill that is strong? I think I just been on them so long. It hased to be used for the treatment of anxiety though. :wtf:


Your doctor is a ing idiot. I was on 8mg a day for a few months. It ed me over for a few years. I'm still trying to recover from it. No one should be taking them anywhere near that frequently at such a high dose.
srussell0018
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Originally posted by XaNaX

But all the bio-availability numbers aside I'll tell you right now I've done both and to get anywhere near the same effects I've got to do at least 30mg of oxycodone for every 4mg of hydromorphone I snorted and even then the oxy high wasn't as good.


I always thought the dilaudid high was much more mellow than oxy. To get the equivalent of 40mg of oxycodone I was doing probably 8-12mg hydromorphone.
Lews
quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
no the only thing they are good for is holding down the bottom of a trash bag


That's what I always thought.
srussell0018
Yeah, I still haven't experienced anything quite like suboxone though. My friend is prescribed them, and he told me to take a little less than half of one, so I put it under my tongue (tasted like garbage) and a half hour or so later I still wasn't really feeling it. Then it hits me and I was completely floored for literally about 12-16 hours. I'm talking not able to keep my eyes open, feeling like I'm going to throw up. Too much.

The crazy part is that this kid can take like 3 or 4 of them in a day and barely feel it. I guess it really hinges on if you have an opiate dependency in the first place.

So that kid gave me another half of one about a week later, and I gave half of that to one of my other friends who only rarely uses any kind of opiate, and he said he was feeling it for a good 24 hours. That stuff is no joke.
kr00t0n
So what of the health risks posed compared to class As?

I know my limits and likes within that, and haven't run in to any trouble over 12 years, but are proper meds more or less risky?

2cb/i is great, though I find it tends to have longer than ideal effect, and is more trippy than euphoric.
Rinster
quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
So what of the health risks posed compared to class As?

I know my limits and likes within that, and haven't run in to any trouble over 12 years, but are proper meds more or less risky?

2cb/i is great, though I find it tends to have longer than ideal effect, and is more trippy than euphoric.


2ci is aswell not to be underestimated.. what a hell of a drug! :crazy:

LAdazeNYnights
ok. how the f does one go about acquiring 2cb/2ci? is it a drug you guys have been able to find without any difficulty? I've been interested in it for a few months now...hoping to find some.....but to no avail. and i know it exists out here on the west coast, it's annoying. i guess, for my age group, most people have never even heard of it. damn.
Omega_Blue
wow.

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Vicodin, Percocet, or Darvocet


you can't find those "easily" at any pharmacy without a script. and darvocets are a waste, not at all recreational, relatively speaking.

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
+1 to all of that.

NOW, for Vicodin, they usually come in 5/500mg, 7.5/750mg, or 10/660mg. Basically what that means is that there's roughly 5mg of the actual opiate, and then 495 mg of Acetaminophen. So if you haven't really done a lot of that stuff, maybe take 2 or 3 of the 5/500mg pills. One good way to reduce the harmfulness of ingesting so much Tylenol is called cold water extraction.

Take your 3 pills and crush them up in to as fine of a powder as you can get them. Mix them in a cup or bowl with about 5-10ml of lukewarm water per pill, until it's dissolved into a murky white liquid. Put that cup/bowl in the refrigerator for about 20-30 min until it's nice and cold. Then take what you have there and pour it over a damp coffee filter over another cup. Squeeze all of the liquid out until you have only a paste-like substance left. After that, put the paste back into the original cup, add 20-30ml more water, and repeat the process.

After you've filtered it twice, drink the slightly murky liquid that you have left. Basically what this does is filter out the APAP, leaving you with only the opiate. It tastes bad, but at least you're not taking 1500mg of tylenol along with your fun stuff. ;)


dude, no.

first of all, it's COLD water, not lukewarm, and furthermore, cold water extraction is a huge waste unless you have a ton of the substance. 2-3 hydro 500's? just ing eat them.

quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
Actually it's not. More recent research shows that the hydromorphone intranasal bio-availability is somewhere between 50-55% where oral and rectal are more like 30%. So yeah the moral of the story is if you don't IV dilaudid you should be snorting it. Oxycodone on the other hand has an intranasal bio-availability of about 55-65% while oral is more like 85% (so just eat your oxys). The reason people snort oxys is for the rush not because its the most efficient way to use the drug.

But all the bio-availability numbers aside I'll tell you right now I've done both and to get anywhere near the same effects I've got to do at least 30mg of oxycodone for every 4mg of hydromorphone I snorted and even then the oxy high wasn't as good.


this. it's been proven again anecdotally that dilaudids are one of the most recreational opiates out there. and if you're looking for a REAL rush from opiates then the only way to go is by bangin' the - not my cup of tea though. i've had good results from parachuting pills though; i also used to have a plug that had 15mg (or maybe just 5's, i can't remember) oxy-IR's in capsules that gave you a good come up.

dude i watched two different shows about opiates and on one, they had this guy doctor shop in florida, and he would ing smoke the oxy's off of foil, chasing the dragon and whatnot. never seen that before but that just. sounds. awful. the other one, this junkie was claiming that he used to get high as a kid by suffocating himself, and the reason he did dope was because it "gave him the same feeling", and that when he runs out of he chokes himself to give him the same effect. what a in moron.

kr00t you should be listening to this guy and me ONLY in this thread. there is so much misinformation and horrendous advice in here.

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
So what of the health risks posed compared to class As?

I know my limits and likes within that, and haven't run in to any trouble over 12 years, but are proper meds more or less risky?

2cb/i is great, though I find it tends to have longer than ideal effect, and is more trippy than euphoric.


there are actually not that many physical side effects with opiates when compared to other drugs (even the legal ones like alcohol). benzos on the other hand- bad news. withdrawals can cause convulsions and even death in certain instances, and in long-term clinical studies, it showed that people who use benzos long-term for insomnia or anxiety actually exhibited MORE anxiety and insomnia in the long run due to benzo use; once the w/d's were over and they got off the , their mental health improved greatly.

withdrawals and addiction is no in joke. i would seriously not dick around with them unless it's like, a rare, rare thing you do on certain occasions. opiates are the wonder-drug, everything is better on them, which makes the potential for addiction much, much higher than any other drug, imo.
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