Originally posted by rulzz
Wireless electricity has been done already by Tesla in early 1900s but was suppressed by JP Morgan as he pulled R&D funding from Tesla for further development because "It would be impossible to meter wireless electricity".
Water engines have been done multiple times since late 60s but have been repeatedly suppressed and bought out by oil companies. U.S patent bureau has a bunch of those patents.
nice topic
Wow a person that subscribes to conspiracy theories...how novel.
infinity HiGH
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Originally posted by SSSanchez
Wow a person that subscribes to conspiracy theories...how novel.
oh look! a person that believes corporations and people can do no wrong! how naive.
infinity HiGH
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Originally posted by Jayx1
this already bothers me now. The electromagnetic pollution in the air is already contributing to cancer.
ummm...
Yohan
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Originally posted by geroin
i've had this topic on my mind for a long time now, i constantly think about things that we will get to see in our lifetime and things that should be already available to us but are for some reason suppressed and kept uknown by scientists and politicians (possibly). I've decided to create a list of things that could potentially be invented the near future and also in the distant future as well with approximate time frames. A lot of these may sound ridiculous so comment and say why it could be impossible to achieve.
lol. someone has been reading too much sci fi lately? (btw all of these issues have been discussed in sci fi books one way or another...)
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1. Flying cars - every single day driving home i think about this, why on earth do we not have this already in place? when i say flying cars i do not mean cars that look like airplanes, i think about something along the lines of fifth element movie car.
the only problem i could think of is how the traffic will be directed because in the air it would be difficult to create special infrastructure to show the traffic signs, lights, turns etc. It would work out if we would fly id say a little above the height of trees and buildings, just enough to avoid any type of obstacle. To know where to go we would use built in computer with a GPS that would guide you to the location with a massive projector that would draw the path out for you and tell you where to go. To land you would go right above the parking spot and lower yourself down at a 90 degree angle slowly to the spot. While i know it is impossible to have this right now i do think that this will be in place in about 200-500years years.
technology for this is already there, with GPS, VTOL/STOL (IE Harrier jet), auto pilot in aircraft. I think the issue is more of making it affordable for everyday joe.
heck, even some sort of hover car would be pretty cool. and road rages would be so much more fun
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3. No Sleep - I have discussed this topic with many people in the past, on TA and outside of TA and i get various feedback from this. I do have a feeling that in the distant future humans would be able to not have to sleep or maybe sleep 1-3 hours at most. The way this could be achieved is by inventing some type of a pill that we could take before we take a nap that would somehow mimic the persons 7 hour sleep during that short period of time. I do understand that it is very hard to recreate as we go through various phases during our sleep where our body recovers mentally and physically + much more. There is one particular phase which is most important during our sleep which i believe last about 3 hours (REM sleep?), if scientists could somehow push the body into a fast mode during sleep to have it recover faster than we do now we would be able to naturally wake up earlier. Ii do have a feeling that it will be possibly achievable in maybe next 2000 years.
sounds like you're looking for something that would 'trick' the body into thinking it's getting enough sleep
possible side effect: if body thinks its getting enough sleep on some sort of fast mode, does this mean our body will age faster? our body is highly adaptable to surrounding environment, and i think it'd take a lot to 'trick' it. possible consequences to altering body sleep cycle... i dunno. could be really bad IMO
and any dependencies on pills, i'm not in favour for. just having a constant supply available would be a pain in the ass
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4. Incubation of babies - Throughout the evolution humans had sex in order to procreate and have kids and continue their race as it is build in our dna to do that but as we all know it, more, if not all people nowadays have sex just for the sake of enjoyment and personal satisfaction + procreation. What i do think will change is that in the far future women would not have to go through the phase of pregnancy but will just use their egg and partners sperm and have them both deposited into special clinic that will incubate the baby for them in the specially created tubes. A lot of these things are already happening but most of the time are done through a surrogate or when the baby is born prematurely but what i'm thinking about is completely mimicking mothers womb from the first day of fertilization. I'd say this could be possible in the next 200 years.
there are benefits to this, like easier detection of genetic defects and other problems that babies might have
but i think it'll be more of a ethical/social issue. pregnancy is built into our social psyche. motherhood is a basis of stable family culture that's been ingrained in humanity. something like incubating babies mean a rather radical change in social perspective, and i'm not sure if it's for the best of humanity
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5. Termination of meat production - Many vegetarians would probably support me on this one. I'm not a vegetarian and i do eat meat all the time but i do think that in the far future humans would not have kill animals and consume meat as we do today. We could in someway replace meat, i know it is done today but i'm talking about change on a mass scale. When i walk into a grocery store and i look at the meat section I always get a slight shiver, how many animals were killed for this? i always imagine a huge factory with thousands of humans being suspended by a metal wire on their neck slowly moving down where in the end the neck meet a huge knife that completely chops of the head one after the other. Again im not a vegetarian but I do feel like in the distant future we will come to realization that we are in fact executing slaughter that is almost the same as killing thousands or millions of humans. I haven't touched the subject that could be debatable as well which is the red meat production, I've read numerous sources and they state that red meat is actually harmful to consume long term as it may cause cancer, stroke, heart disease etc. I say this has potential to happen in about 800-1000years, maybe more.
so far, any substitute of meat products just don't taste as good as the original meat... i'd deffo substitute real meat for fake stuff if it tastes the same, but there's something about real meat that fake stuff just can't mimic
as for animals... well, sucks to be animals in lower food chain *shrug*
we really should ask lions if they feel bad eating gazelles. yeah i know. humans have evolved and have more mental capabilities than a lion, but basic nature concept remains the same
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6. Wireless wiring and electricity - I do not know if it is possible or not as i'm not a scientist but i do have a feeling that this will somehow be possible in about 5000 years by using the existing technology we have in place today for sending radio wave signals. It could be potentially improved to the point where we would be able to send electric signals to all the devices without having to use wiring at all. I don't know how that will affect our overall health and how some or all devices will interact this way but i do feel like that massive movement towards wireless technology that we already have in place now and that is improving quite rapidly.
urm. other than electricity itself, don't we use some sort of wireless technology one way or another? (or have the ability to do so)
geroin
it is hard to respond to you all all at once but i will try my best since i want to generate some discussion
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Directing traffic won't be such a problem by the time we have flying cars simply because the on-board computer will do all the driving/flying for us. They're already working with prototypes like this in different parts of the world, so in another 5-7 years the technology should be perfected and ready for real world applications. Cars are already parking themselves. Cars that drive themselves are in the not-so distant future.
many prototypes are available today, that's true but i think it will still take a looong time until we will see complete switch from ground to air only travel. Can you imagine how much resources, training and infrastructure change will have to take place for the whole world eventually travel this way? i still stick to my time line of about 100 years at least. (ps the cars i mentioned will be powered with jet engines like our military planes and land in the same manner like they do)
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I don't think water as fuel will come about simply because we'll discover better alternatives to it.
what do you think would be a better alternative? we have so much water available to us though, i do not mean fresh water i'm talking about filtered ocean water (which is already done today btw)
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I think humans will evolve beyond their physical bodies within 2000 years, to be honest.
agreed, i think eventually the body will be able to take more beating and possibly evolve into sleeping less on its own but i still do have a feeling that we could potentially in someway create "something" that will make us not sleep at all whatsoever, doesn't have to be a pill as i stated. i think it may take a little longer than a few thousand years until we reach that point though.
nice one dude! although the date i proposed was off the top of my head obviously i was still somewhat close to what they are proposing heh still pretty amazing that our scientists are already on this , i didn't even know that ;)
geroin
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Originally posted by Skipper
I believe eventually meat will become a delicacy for most people in the world. Given how the population is growing, the planet simply can't sustain raising livestock to meet future demand.
this is exactly what i was thinking about, at one point maybe even during our lifetime it will be impossible to grow so much livestock anymore to feed everyone, this cannot continue forever though as it may either cause an environmental disaster from all the (literally) or a possible epidemic that will kill like 50% of us.
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Originally posted by Skipper
I highly doubt water will be used as fuel because it will eventually be needed for drinking/nourishment/hydration (see growing population point above). A water crisis in the broader world is inevitable I think.
i posted above that i was actually proposing using our ocean waters which we have plenty, we have will just have to filter out the salt from it which is already done today.
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Originally posted by rulzz
Wireless electricity has been done already by Tesla in early 1900s but was suppressed by JP Morgan as he pulled R&D funding from Tesla for further development because "It would be impossible to meter wireless electricity".
Water engines have been done multiple times since late 60s but have been repeatedly suppressed and bought out by oil companies. U.S patent bureau has a bunch of those patents.
I really like the idea of no sleep but with our bodies will not be able to hold it for too long, even with a help of a pill. As an alternative i prefer to think about longer lifespan, if people can live longer at higher elevations then i believe every human can do so too at lower as long as we follow special diet and meditate and exercise.
termination of meat production - unlikely. But growing specific types of meat (say chicken breasts only) very possible although its up for a lot of ethical debate ( that is unless human population explodes say to 15 billion)
nice topic
i knew about your first 2 points about tesla and water engines, like i said until oil companies get on it themseveles it's not going to happen, as obvious as it is nobody would pay to fill up their car with water and they will go down. we all know it but cannot do anything about it.
The thing with sleep though it does not have to be a pill, maybe a way to plug something into your carotid artery that will make your body rest much faster during those few hours. you know the one that has the pulse on your neck and that in someway related to our sleep
The reason i'm really pushing this one is because as we evolve we cannot sleep 1/3 of our lives, humans will realize that we are wasting a lot of time sleeping which is not productive and depending on circumstances could be not possible in the distant future.
Nice last point, i didn't think of that, maybe we will first reach the stage where we will clone the animal organs without killing the existing ones which in someway i can see working
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Originally posted by Djsketchbag
TELEPORTATION!!!!
Scientists have teleported small atoms and particles already, the big question that has risen is when a human being is reconstructed will they be able to retain their memories
nice one, this is very debatable subject though as it is very hard to think that we could one day teleport the whole human being into another location that one is probably along side with time travel
I wanted to touch on time travel as well, i think we eventually would be able to travel into the past but not into the future. If we ever reach that point that we could travel faster than a speed of light we could eventually slow the time down. Don't know what the outcome will be but i do think there is a possibility of it happoening maybe like 50,000 years from now if earth still exists
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Originally posted by bas
The majority of the planet has yet to grasp the Herculean task of 2d space...imagine z-space? They would up :stongue: :stongue:
same bro, on the road or in the air. just like when you first sat down behind the wheel it willl be exact same thing, you will receive training etc.
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Originally posted by love_child
You can already reserve your flying car here
exactly the one i don't want, looks horrible too lol
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Originally posted by Adamo
electronics implanted into humans.
amazing, is this already developed?
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Originally posted by Intangible
^ lol :p
Thread of the year. I love thinking about this stuff... I wish I had time to contribute.
get some time and do it :D
geroin
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Originally posted by Jayx1
would love to see this! but sadly most people cant even handle a terrestrial vehicle. So it would have to be completely automated and what fun would that be? But yeah definitely as an option it would be cool, a replacement, maybe not so much.
it is all going towards that though, either we want it or not, we already have too many cars on our roads today, what will happen in 50 years? can you imagine how difficult it will be to travel from one side of the city to another? it will be nightmare
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Originally posted by Jayx1
i am a firm believer in the idea that the oil companies are suppressing alternate forms of fuel. Look at the electric car fiasco as a good example. And its not just about oil. The car companies make a lot more money off of breaking parts for a gas powered engine.
exactly
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Originally posted by Jayx1
even if this were possible its not for me. Its not natural. We sleep for a reason. Pills should never replace sleep.
pills or not you're thinking about "what would happen if it was here today" i'm talking about a future necessity of not having to sleep as much or at all due to whatever circumstances. I have a hard time believing that we as humans will not evolve into a super human that can sleep only 1-3 hours in like 2000 years or maybe a little longer.
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Originally posted by Jayx1
again no thanks. Except in cases where women cant have kids, this again is a natural process for a reason.
again i'm not talking today but many years from now - future.
natural or not many things we do today are not natural like using contraception, we're not supposed to have sex if we are not procreating "naturally speaking". if people from 5000 years ago would look at us today they would think we are ufos compared to them.
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Originally posted by Jayx1
its already possible for humans to not eat meat. We do so because we enjoy it and it does have health benefits. Why would anyone want to eat something completely synthetic anyways? As for killing animals, again this is nature. Its how species survive. Its called the food chain. No different than how a bear will maul and eat a human.
i understand the concept of food chain but you have to understand out of all the animals we are the only ones that can differentiate what is right and what is wrong, killing another human is the worst crime you could commit, why is killing an animal ok? it is another "live being" just like all of us here. We do now that slaughter is wrong yet we still do it because there is no law against it. I do believe that eventually when we do reach that level of understanding we will be able to substitute meat for something else on a mass scale globally.
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Originally posted by Jayx1
this already bothers me now. The electromagnetic pollution in the air is already contributing to cancer. Just wait till the wifi feedback comes in. If anything we should be investing in more fibreoptics and buried cable. Its faster, safer and more reliable especially if its a huge unbreakable network.
i need proof for such claims.
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Originally posted by Jayx1
awesome ideas but im always weary when we try to play god or mother nature. somethings like how we treat our bodies should just be left to natural ways. Whereas things like flying cars etc are awesome ideas and those are the type of things that would fully benefit society.
you have to understand that we will never stay the way we are today, we have to play mother nature to evolve and reach new heights/levels thats what we are here for.
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Originally posted by Yohan
lol. someone has been reading too much sci fi lately? (btw all of these issues have been discussed in sci fi books one way or another...)
i actually haven't, i was just thinking about this over some time now and why some technology is not up to par as it should be imo, wanted to see what others thought heh
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Originally posted by Yohan
technology for this is already there, with GPS, VTOL/STOL (IE Harrier jet), auto pilot in aircraft. I think the issue is more of making it affordable for everyday joe.
heck, even some sort of hover car would be pretty cool. and road rages would be so much more fun
exactly, until it becomes affordable with all the changes in place it will take hundred years if not more
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Originally posted by Yohan
sounds like you're looking for something that would 'trick' the body into thinking it's getting enough sleep
possible side effect: if body thinks its getting enough sleep on some sort of fast mode, does this mean our body will age faster? our body is highly adaptable to surrounding environment, and i think it'd take a lot to 'trick' it. possible consequences to altering body sleep cycle... i dunno. could be really bad IMO
and any dependencies on pills, i'm not in favour for. just having a constant supply available would be a pain in the ass
nice point about aging, i haven't though about that. you see, when this does in fact get implemented i think there will be some serious tests conducted, possibly long term ones to see the effect on humans that it may cause. something like this may take a couple thousand years to fully understand and achieve.
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Originally posted by Yohan
there are benefits to this, like easier detection of genetic defects and other problems that babies might have
but i think it'll be more of a ethical/social issue. pregnancy is built into our social psyche. motherhood is a basis of stable family culture that's been ingrained in humanity. something like incubating babies mean a rather radical change in social perspective, and i'm not sure if it's for the best of humanity
I agree about ethical issue but we can see many people do that today, imagine a woman that does not have to experience any birth side effects, complete changes in hormones and weight, no need for carrying a baby for 9 months and more. well if i was a woman and this was available id go for it for sure.
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Originally posted by Yohan
so far, any substitute of meat products just don't taste as good as the original meat... i'd deffo substitute real meat for fake stuff if it tastes the same, but there's something about real meat that fake stuff just can't mimic
as for animals... well, sucks to be animals in lower food chain *shrug*
we really should ask lions if they feel bad eating gazelles. yeah i know. humans have evolved and have more mental capabilities than a lion, but basic nature concept remains the same
heh the meat that we eat today is already very fake :P it's pretty nasty actually when i think about it.
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Originally posted by Yohan
urm. other than electricity itself, don't we use some sort of wireless technology one way or another? (or have the ability to do so)
wireless technology is only for signal using radio waves. i was mostly speaking of getting rid of all the wires altogether
