4th grade I plated the violin. 5th through 7th grade I played the trumpet and 8th through 9th grade I played the Baritone.
Now I play the Ukulele. I have a keyboard and guitar but I suck at them.
w_ashley
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Originally posted by Omega_Blue
hell no dude. you may be able to manipulate the sound a bit more with a guitar (ie vibrato, bends, etc) but piano is far more complex. prime example: piano music = master clef. guitar music = treble clef. piano = your left hand is playing in a separate clef than your right hand at many times. guitar = your left hand is fingering the notes, your right is performing the rhythm.
and intricate finger placement my ass. guitar finger placement is all patterns that never change regardless of the position on the fret board. you will never be able to mimic note-for-note the most complex piano pieces with a guitar; conversely, the piano can come pretty damn close to emulating anything the guitar can play (sans certain types of sound manipulation such as bends like i mentioned earlier).
you're wrong, william.
Nah I think guitar especially string manipulation - wire manipulation is more demanding than pressing ivory.
Also you need to hold the guitar, you are only positioning with a piano.
Also the electric guitar adds a whole new dimension with pedaling as well as potentially feedback. Also guitar uses much more sustain, and far more sensitivity than a piano.
The piano also has a set number of notes 10 times 97 (for the a large piano) so 9700 possible finger arrangements *this is an arbitrary number.
The guitar however has multiple fingering positions, and the time you have to change them is far more complicated than with piano. Since piano positions are always the same (excepting actual note differences when playing chords)
Fact is guitar is a more complex instrument to play intricately.
Guitar is more of a sequential instrument composed of chords and runs. piano while able to do the same thing allows chords to be played with one hand - not two. Although both can do this in opposite piano with two hands, chords with one -- it is more common the other way.
The scale of play (by that i mean size and positioning requirements) are more demanding for guitar also - and this is a major factor in terms of precision. Also some guitars are fretless, in terms partial tone capacities, as well as fret retuning (by altering the length of the string) these are elements you are neglecting from the capacities of the instrument. With piano retuning in that manner is far more limited, dangerous, and rare.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by ********
Nah I think guitar especially string manipulation - wire manipulation is more demanding than pressing ivory.
Also you need to hold the guitar, you are only positioning with a piano.
Also the electric guitar adds a whole new dimension with pedaling as well as potentially feedback. Also guitar uses much more sustain, and far more sensitivity than a piano.
The piano also has a set number of notes 10 times 97 (for the a large piano) so 9700 possible finger arrangements *this is an arbitrary number.
The guitar however has multiple fingering positions, and the time you have to change them is far more complicated than with piano. Since piano positions are always the same (excepting actual note differences when playing chords)
Fact is guitar is a more complex instrument to play intricately.
Guitar is more of a sequential instrument composed of chords and runs. piano while able to do the same thing allows chords to be played with one hand - not two. Although both can do this in opposite piano with two hands, chords with one -- it is more common the other way.
The scale of play (by that i mean size and positioning requirements) are more demanding for guitar also - and this is a major factor in terms of precision. Also some guitars are fretless, in terms partial tone capacities, as well as fret retuning (by altering the length of the string) these are elements you are neglecting from the capacities fo the instrument. With piano retuning in that manner is far more limited, dangerous, and rare.
You are a fool and you have no idea what you're talking about.
w_ashley
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
You are a fool and you have no idea what you're talking about.
ad hominem eddie, rise above your pettyness.
Make a point or STFU.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by ********
ad hominem eddie, rise above your pettyness.
Make a point or STFU.
Make a point against an ultimately meaningless wall of text used to support a hypothesis for which you've not demonstrated any meaningful expertise? You already made my point.
Originally posted by Enigmatik
I played the Mandolin for about 10 years
reminds me of
Back to what I was saying before... Its not that I want to be a perfectionist its more about be able to enjoy playing where you can rise above repetitive chore like note for note playing. The more I think about it I would love to be able to play jazz/blues because it affords more creativity and fun with the freedom of improvisation. I also get that if you struggle with the technical aspects its impossible to enjoy playing. I was never able to rise to that level when I played the guitar and as a consequence it wasn't fun.
enydo
Played saxophone for 8 years. Sadly, it's been collecting dust in the closet for a while now...
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by igottaknow
Back to what I was saying before... Its not that I want to be a perfectionist its more about be able to enjoy playing where you can rise above repetitive chore like note for note playing. The more I think about it I would love to be able to play jazz/blues because it affords more creativity and fun with the freedom of improvisation. I also get that if you struggle with the technical aspects its impossible to enjoy playing. I was never able to rise to that level when I played the guitar and as a consequence it wasn't fun.
Recently, I got to the point in my keyboard playing where I'll put off getting a track down in the sequencer because I'm having fun playing it and screwing around with all of the different permutations and improvisations. It took a little while to get to that point, though, and a lot of the un-fun, technical stuff that I still have to resort to, in order to warm up to a part.
Lira
Lira plays the saxophone, the recorder, the piano, and the talking in the 3rd person character :p
igottaknow
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Originally posted by Lira
Lira plays the saxophone, the recorder, the piano, and the talking in the 3rd person character :p
ever thought about joining a Peruvian flute band? :p God I thought every kid was force to pay that stupid recorder in elementary school. I still hate it to this day. :whip:
