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Prostitution no longer illegal in Ontario... soon to be Canada? (pg. 4)
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| 1dawoman |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
I'll make sure to come look for you next time you're out...
10 bucks should buy you for the night... |
is that how you met your girlfriend? |
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| activate |
Don't get too excited just yet guys, it's not legal yet.
Prostitution itself is Legal in Ontario. Soliciting a prostitute is illegal, keeping a bawdy house is illegal, and living off the proceeds of prostitution is illegal. |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by 1dawoman
is that how you met your wife? |
Fixed for your ignorance...
And she's cost me wayyyy more then 10 bucks over the last decade...
Btw.. I take my last comment to you back cause I thought you were a chick...
Your name is very misleading... |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by 1dawoman
fixed
I don't get it...girls are so easy to pick up at clubs these days....how desperate does a guy have to be to risk his or his family's health to do this...
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This is quite puzzling..so do girls get STD's because of their job (prostitute) while people who have sex with strangers for free are immune to STD's?? |
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| gilboman |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
Don't get too excited just yet guys, it's not legal yet.
Prostitution itself is Legal in Ontario. Soliciting a prostitute is illegal, keeping a bawdy house is illegal, and living off the proceeds of prostitution is illegal. |
this ruling made those things legal that you listed as illegal |
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| 1dawoman |
| quote: | Originally posted by gilboman
This is quite puzzling..so do girls get STD's because of their job (prostitute) while people who have sex with strangers for free are immune to STD's?? |
Well, for starters, compare stats on STD prevalence in prostitutes compared to the general population.... |
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| nacarter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Prometheus Xex
So the ruling also states that there's a wait of a month to allow for any appeals, which will clearly happen. I heard on the news this morning that an appeal could last anywhere from two to five years before a final decision is made. I guarantee you that any good lawyer could drag this out in the court of appeals for even longer. |
Reality, it will take about a year to wind through the Federal Appeals court, and then another year to go through to the Supreme Court because there is no doubt that whomever loses at the Federal Court level will appeal.
Is it going to drag? Highly unlikely because of the profile of the law in question. The Tories are under pressure from their social conservative base to ensure this moves. The only way I see it bogging down is if the Justice Department asks for a reference from the Supreme Court in order to frame the parameters of a new law. Even then, an additional year max.
What I expect to see is police services no longer going hard after Johns and hookers because by the time the cases wind through the courts, the law will likely be struck down. Vice cops already understand that their job is futile - they aren't going to put more work into a zero cause. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
Don't get too excited just yet guys, it's not legal yet.
Prostitution itself is Legal in Ontario. Soliciting a prostitute is illegal, keeping a bawdy house is illegal, and living off the proceeds of prostitution is illegal. |
Yes indeed.
http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/...ostitution-laws
Feds aint gonna let this one go through smoothly.
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Feds to appeal ruling that struck down prostitution laws
OTTAWA — The federal government will appeal an Ontario court ruling that struck down Canada’s prostitution laws.
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson made the announcement today in the House of Commons.
An Ontario Superior Court judge ruled Tuesday that certain prostitution-related laws are unconstitutional.
Prostitution is not illegal in Canada, but the court struck down three provisions that criminalized most aspects of prostitution.
Justice Susan Himel said laws against keeping a common bawdy house, communicating for the purposes of prostitution, and living on the avails “are not in accord with the principles of fundamental justice.”
The judgment is subject to a 30-day stay during which the law remains in place — and the federal government can seek an extension of the stay period.
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| MarkT |
of course this will be appealed, right up to the Supreme Court.
this decision isn't meant to turn Ontario into a big red light district. it's meant to force the matter back to Parliament so that better legislation can be created, which I assume will only happen if this ruling is upheld by the higher courts.
IMHO, although I personally don't like it, I think prostitution should be legal (and not just 'technically' legal, as it is now). if someone wants to have sex for money, that's their business. and because it is a business, it should be taxed and regulated accordingly, with appropriate legislation in place to deal with the unwanted and illegal elements (solicitation of minors, coercion, violence, etc). |
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
IMHO, although I personally don't like it, I think prostitution should be legal (and not just 'technically' legal, as it is now). if someone wants to have sex for money, that's their business. and because it is a business, it should be taxed and regulated accordingly, with appropriate legislation in place to deal with the unwanted and illegal elements (solicitation of minors, coercion, violence, etc). |
Yup, yup and yup... |
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| Deacon_Ran |
This judge has BALLS. Her career is either going in the toilet or she's on her way to the Supreme Court. I haven't read her ruling, but the nuts and bolts of it being reported in the papers summarize it as the right for sex workers to operate in a safe environment - constitutional right to security of the person - outweighing society's interest in limiting the social problems caused by prostitution. If you consider the laws that were struck down within this framework her ruling makes alot of sense.
Now I want to see a constitutional challenge to our arcane drug laws and see where that goes, if anywhere. Lisa Loo, make a name for yourself once you get your LLB - or JD - and take the case all the way to the Supreme Court. :) |
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| VDub |
| I think prostitution is the least of our social problems... |
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