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Hard to find vinyl (pg. 3)
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| Tweak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
What the ? No, seriously, what the ? |
Ahaha, wrong window. Relax dude. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
No, the vinyl sounds better and warmer because of the medium, not because of the way the track was made.
If you take an identical track in Wav and on vinyl, the vinyl to most people will always sound better. |
how does this make sense? a conversion to different medium is taking place, for sure there is losses involved. The raw wave will for surely sound better. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
how does this make sense? a conversion to different medium is taking place, for sure there is losses involved. The raw wave will for surely sound better. |
Maybe, if you're thinking in strictly technical terms. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
how does this make sense? a conversion to different medium is taking place, for sure there is losses involved. The raw wave will for surely sound better. |
Are you for real? How do you not understand this!?
It's about the actual medium. The Wav may sound cleaner but that doesn't make it better. Ever heard the difference between the exact same track played through a Xone:92 and just a cheap digital mixer? |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
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Maybe, if you're thinking in strictly technical terms.
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What other terms should be considered when sound quality is solely a technical issue?
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Are you for real? How do you not understand this!?
It's about the actual medium. The Wav may sound cleaner but that doesn't make it better. Ever heard the difference between the exact same track played through a Xone:92 and just a cheap digital mixer? |
Of course i am for real. With your logic this is what you are saying:
play the same track through a cheap digital mixer connected to an Xone:92 and you are telling me the sound is going to sound better?
(1)analogue to (2)digital to (3)analogue
the third analogue is redundant and actually will have reduced quality compared to leaving it digital. Do i have a point here or am i completely off the loop? |
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| stevö |
if you just press a wav onto a vinyl, it will sound ty. really ty. you actually would get something sounding way better with a simple consumer level tape recorder plugged into the output of your laptop. with vinyl, you have to alter the source audio a lot so that when it presses onto the vinyl, it ends up sounding much different when played back. you have to make it "pop" and "come alive". you're mastering it in a way so that its using certain characteristics of vinyl to their advantage that you dont get with other mediums.
there are technologies that companies incorporate into cd players that smooth the signal after it comes from the DAC. they use algorithms to smooth the waveform out and make it sound more natural instead of the jaggy connect the dots representation of a sound wave. anyway i think i read somewhere that when played back with vinyl, when the bitrate is high enough, the mechanism of a needle vibrating inherently smoothes out the waveform to make it sound better than it originally sounded in original digital form. its like a beautiful accident. |
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| stevö |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
What other terms should be considered when sound quality is solely a technical issue?
Of course i am for real. With your logic this is what you are saying:
play the same track through a cheap digital mixer connected to an Xone:92 and you are telling me the sound is going to sound better?
(1)analogue to (2)digital to (3)analogue
the third analogue is redundant and actually will have reduced quality compared to leaving it digital. Do i have a point here or am i completely off the loop? |
sort of. if you mean recording an analog source into your track, then theres an ADC involved. analog to digital converter. it has the same problem as a DAC but in reverse, it has to take the analog electrical audio signal and create a digital mapping representation of it. and another thing, your last step of analog (3) is going to happen anyway no matter what, because you have to create an analog signal in order to amplify it in order to drive a speaker in order to hear it. the difference that people hear is how the analog signal is created. lets see theres vinyl, magnetic tape, and DAC. it reminds me of greg wilson, he has ears for the sound characteristics of reel to reel playback, he hears things in that medium that he doesnt get from vinyl or DAC, so he ends up using an actual reel to reel in his dj sets. what a weirdo. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| well maybe its not cookie cutter and logical as it should be. I think we would need to hear more comments from actual producers who get their stuff pressed. |
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| trancypantzzz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
What the ? No, seriously, what the ? |
i think the thread was more about hard to find vinyl than mp3 vs vinyl ******ry. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
What other terms should be considered when sound quality is solely a technical issue? |
What you know and what you hear are often two different things. |
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| netroM |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancypantzzz
i think the thread was more about hard to find vinyl than mp3 vs vinyl ******ry. |
hence my "inb4". I knew it would spark a discussion.
Trolling is a art |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancypantzzz
i think the thread was more about hard to find vinyl than mp3 vs vinyl ******ry. |
No, the thread was about finding recent good trance tracks on vinyl. Not just overall hard to find vinyl.
God :rolleyes: |
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