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DJ Gear: USB DJ Controller or turntables? (pg. 3)
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Ben4
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Originally posted by Adam420
Don't buy a controller if you want people to actually think of you as a DJ.


WRONG!!!!
They think Iam a very Avangard Dj now days :P
everyone here @ the clubs are using turntables and cd still ???:rolleyes:
orTofønChiLd
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Originally posted by Teezdalien
Traktor is .


:wtf: you must be seriously retarded
Rodri Santos
my favourite quality/price is



Both mixer and midi controller, the big con is that is a behringer :) if you have a 1000$ budget i'd go with a pair of pioneer cdj-400 and a decent mixer.

This mixer is cheap but has all the features a pro mixer has
PivotTechno
I've played out on a larger PA using the Behringer, and the output quality is e.
Rodri Santos
the mixer signals have definitely something to do with the sound quality but speakers and amps are the main problem don't forget about the room because they changed the wall layout in a club and solely because of this the quality improved very noticeably. There are a lot of factors.

On a decent club i'd care of this but in my house i won't push the levels too much so i think a handy mixer with all the features is the best, you can buy a pioneer djm mixer which is the standard but is a lot more expensive and a behringer does the same for home usage.
Trance Android
Bheringer makes you *think* you are getting a lot of kit for your money & I guess in a way your are in terms of fancy whistles & bells. But unfortunately everyone I know who's bought one regretted it when it fell apart & they had to buy a new mixer. ...And not one of them bought another Bheringer.
veezee
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Originally posted by Trance Android
Bheringer makes you *think* you are getting a lot of kit for your money & I guess in a way your are in terms of fancy whistles & bells. But unfortunately everyone I know who's bought one regretted it when it fell apart & they had to buy a new mixer. ...And not one of them bought another Bheringer.


Maybe one of those Pioneer knock off's (ie the DX700 i think it is ) , but I have heard nothing but good reviews for the DDM 4000 in terms of build quality.

Jay
Stu Cox
As much as this topic is discussed over and over again, I wish I could just go back to vinyl haha

Life was so much easier: once you'd bought a record, you had it. Wanna record a mix? Put a tune on a deck and go. Playing a gig? Grab your record box and headphones and walk out of the door.

With CDs burnt from downloads, you have to burn the CD, write a tracklist, print it off, maybe work out the tempo and key (although towards the end I was doing that with vinyl as well)... but then at least a CD wallet is 100 times lighter than a fully-loaded record box.

With a laptop, you first have to make sure you've got a stable setup: maybe not so hard for Mac users, but I personally wouldn't trust a standard Windows install not to waste valuable CPU with background tasks. Then once you've downloaded tunes you might want to fix the shoddy ID3 tags the download site put in, add key and tempo, maybe album art, analyse or warp each track... You've then got to take all your kit to the club, then plug in the laptop and plug in your controllers without getting in the way of the guy before you, play your set, then get it all out again without getting in the way of the guy after you.

Just the length of the paragraph should show how much more work there is in using a laptop - and it's supposed to be the easy option!


Only this week, the hard drive in my DJing laptop went a bit mental and now I can't boot from it. So in order to record a mix I need to do for a radio show, I've had to get all of my settings files off that hard drive, install all of my DJing software and drivers on my desktop PC and get on with it like that. And I'm going to have to find time to format and reinstall everything on my laptop again.

That would never have happened with a pair of 1210s!
Stu Cox
quote:
Originally posted by veezee
Maybe one of those Pioneer knock off's (ie the DX700 i think it is ) , but I have heard nothing but good reviews for the DDM 4000 in terms of build quality.

Jay

Yep the reviews were surprisingly good.

I'd be interested to hear how people have got on with it who have had one for a year or two. Most of the reviews I've read have been from just after it came out, so I don't know if they fell apart after a year or not!

I'm always dubious when products come out with so many features and such a low price tag. Behringer are known for their ability to bring down the price without hitting quality too much in other product lines, but they've made a hash of loads of their DJ products in the past.

A lot of the reviews also said it was incredibly light... which with cheaper products often means they've stuck everything on one thin board and crammed as much as they could into one chip, which can make it more likely to break. They also may have skimped on the analogue circuitry, which could hit the sound quality - I've never heard one of these mixers and none of the reviews I've seen said too much about it.

Although for 300 quid you can't exactly expect professional studio quality.
Teezdalien
quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
As much as this topic is discussed over and over again, I wish I could just go back to vinyl haha

Life was so much easier: once you'd bought a record, you had it. Wanna record a mix? Put a tune on a deck and go. Playing a gig? Grab your record box and headphones and walk out of the door.

With CDs burnt from downloads, you have to burn the CD, write a tracklist, print it off, maybe work out the tempo and key (although towards the end I was doing that with vinyl as well)... but then at least a CD wallet is 100 times lighter than a fully-loaded record box.

With a laptop, you first have to make sure you've got a stable setup: maybe not so hard for Mac users, but I personally wouldn't trust a standard Windows install not to waste valuable CPU with background tasks. Then once you've downloaded tunes you might want to fix the shoddy ID3 tags the download site put in, add key and tempo, maybe album art, analyse or warp each track... You've then got to take all your kit to the club, then plug in the laptop and plug in your controllers without getting in the way of the guy before you, play your set, then get it all out again without getting in the way of the guy after you.

Just the length of the paragraph should show how much more work there is in using a laptop - and it's supposed to be the easy option!


Only this week, the hard drive in my DJing laptop went a bit mental and now I can't boot from it. So in order to record a mix I need to do for a radio show, I've had to get all of my settings files off that hard drive, install all of my DJing software and drivers on my desktop PC and get on with it like that. And I'm going to have to find time to format and reinstall everything on my laptop again.

That would never have happened with a pair of 1210s!


Fully agree with this. DVS and digital DJing set-ups have given me more headaches and technical issues than ever. I never really took to the feel of using CDJs although I find them more reliable than using a laptop. I'd still like to give the S4 a test run.
It's just a shame that there's not as much music pressed to vinyl anymore.

Adam420
There's still a really good amount, though. Enough that there are even some bad ones here and there. Definitely though some digital-only releases deserve a vinyl pressing as well.

I guess what could be a lot better is their distribution.
Teezdalien
quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
There's still a really good amount, though. Enough that there are even some bad ones here and there. Definitely though some digital-only releases deserve a vinyl pressing as well.

I guess what could be a lot better is their distribution.


True, there are still a lot releases exclusive to vinyl too, well at least for a while.
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