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Deep and Progressive House Synths? (pg. 5)
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| Final Call |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
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i thought that was a special WoW dagger!:p :p :p |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
I've spoke to about 5 Producers tonight who have all agreed on what i've said and just said "leave TA forum alone, we do it alone now"...I can see there opinions and im just following suit...the concepts are crazy from this site...Serious Sounds has incredible recognition, Engineers and Artists signed/worked with WB and other Major Labels such as EMI...Artists signed to Flashover Recordings, Blackhole and Armada...plays from top DJ's like Carl Cox, Sasha, Digweed, Cattaneo, Ferry Corsten, Patterson etc. it's an incredible website...this seems very territorial and weak in it's essence of what it stands for. |
Seems like you have an easy narrative to stick with, Sparky, along with a Heaven on Earth to stay. It's a place where none of the world-renown outliers are challenged and even the serfs walk as gentry who can put forth whatever crazy idear some random, cancerous fractal of neuron firings happened to cook up that day; unfettered by an insistence that it is better to do it right than to do it, at all. I'll bet they have chocolate-milk running from water-fountains and candy-cane trees and no one ever tells you what time it really is, let alone forces you to eat that side of spinach before you start on desert.
And what, precisely, do you think Trance Addict stands for?
I can already fathom why you think it doesn't. |
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| shane_w1 |
But that's almost what it is in a Sound process...the measure (wavelength) from crest to crest determines what sound it will be...an even Sine wave would not be the process of sound for a Violin as it's wavelength is usually shorter (stabby type waves) than a sine therefore the wavelength determins the wave form in those contexts.
That's as closest as I can get to justifying the process for sound/audio, it's the fundamental property to determine what type of wave it will be. Wavelength is not like "length of a string" "length of shape" it's the measure from 1 frequency crest to another frequency crest.
That's as much as I can explain in it's simplest forms, if you got an Oscilloscope then you can actually test it for yourself, it's default setting will be at 0 (flat) but if you change the frequency the wavelength will determine what sound it will be, generating from a Sine wave to whatever you want for example:
Square and rectangular waves
Triangle and sawtooth waves
Step and pulse shapes
That's it now guys, im putting this to bed and quitting Trance Addict...it's mechanical and electrical function which I have explained (to death) is right here. |
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| shane_w1 |
| As for the name...the Trance Addicts I know have told me to stay well away...I hear the material and it's not even Trance for most of it...Acid leads into 4/4 loops, most of it is that way. |
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| dj_k1 |
| I was thinking about buying Kreate does anybody use this to produce? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
As for the name...the Trance Addicts I know have told me to stay well away...I hear the material and it's not even Trance for most of it...Acid leads into 4/4 loops, most of it is that way. |
Like what? Please link to where you're finding acid leads into 4 beat loops and/or who's doing dance material - in any genre - in any other time-signature than 4/4? I've heard a couple of 3/4 tunes and I'll even give you the occasional Acid Jazz joint which splits signatures (5 measures of 3/4 with every sixth in 5/4) every few measures but I'm wondering about the integrity of your claim, here. |
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| LoveHate |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_k1
I have FM8 any presets in mind? |
stop making music, you are a loser. |
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| Nightshift |
| yo dawg i use my subwoofer as a tweeter, juss sayin. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
I don't have to get into a childish debate here...I discuss alot of things on about 3-4 forums and that's not a reply I would deem helpful to many Producers, we're here to help Producers not criticize and clearly that's not an attitude id like to come across in EDM.
I totally agree with working on the material/equipment you got but im saying don't be afraid to use Presets, I sound-sculpt alot of sounds myself and sometimes I start from scratch or sometimes I use a Preset to understand the process and none of those are the types of Presets used for a Britney Spears type-track but keep making your "Acid jazz" and im sure many other Producers will use there techniques on other Projects.
I've been Producing since 2006 and that may be shorter or longer a duration than others but that's more than adequate for me at this time....I talk to alot of Tutors and reputable Producers and I have intelligent conversations with them, none end up with "you don't know what your talking about kid" |
OK. This I have no problem with. Congrats on making a very mature reply to (what I'm happt to admit was) an inflammatory post. There's nothing wrong with using presets if they're available, but there's something very wrong with choosing a synth (or rubbishing synths) based solely on the genre of their presets FFS.
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
For the questions though: Im studying Electrical Engineering at BSc level and don't have many problems at the moment in the field...where I mean 4 different wavelengths, im talking Square waves, Sine waves and Saw waves into 1 channeled complete sound...you can literally create bigger sounds on Sylenth than with Rob Papen Predator and if you think you can create 1 sound on Rob Papen Predator aswell as on Sylenth then that's obsurd, create a Preset on Sylenth, piece of p*ss...create a Preset on Korg M1 and you'll be there for hours...or maybe not with your "Acid lead"
A cut-off frequency is where the sole power of the sound or it's source (energy) can be reduced eg by filtering but of course I googled that right?I don't experiment or see for myself...it's a fairly basic terminology but I understand, I might be "new" to this site so I can understand the scrutiny and patronizing comment for every detail.
The arpegiating layout, by that I mean Sylenth has the option on the Interface for 7 steps where as Rob Papen Predator has 16 which can be altered but also there is no "Swing" mode on Sylenth which means Papen Predator is more geared for Swing orientated Genres like House justifying my opinions wholly. |
See this I do have a problem with. You're talking about square waves and sine waves being wavelenths. Any student who had studied physics at a high school level would know that these aren't wavelengths. They're waveforms. Completey different and a very good way of making yourself look stupid.
You can crate a sound as well on predator as on sylenth, and you're further proving your ignorance by claiming otherwise. More oscillators do not a better synth make.
You also have no idea what you're referring to with filters. A filter doesn't filter "energy" or some rubbish. It removes higher partials from the waveform.
House isn't a swing oriented genre, more ignorance. Lots of genres use swing, and you don't really seem to understand arpegiation.
Honestly, I've studied physics in the first year of my science degree and I was in there with a lot of engineering students. like filters and waveforms is basic physics 101, so I'm going to guess that IF you are actually an engineering student (which would make you a student in an E.E., Ch.E., C.E.,, Env.E., I.E., Mech.E., Nucl.E., Sys.E, or B. Eng degree, but never a student in a B.Sc degree afaik) you're a very bad one. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by shane_w1
That's the passband value (3/-3db)...im giving basic terminology but yes that's the true value given Maxwell's equation followed by umpteen others but how do you explain that to someone who doesn't know?A basic overall description which I gave is perfectly reasonable and is actually defined in most books where they then delve deeper..I can go as deep as it needs to be.
We have already studied Basic Modulation systems even when I was in College doing Electronics and Electrical Engineering, we studied Square Waves digitally and studied various Analogue systems too...how can we question that a Square Wave is NOT a Wavelength?It's in the name!!
The Arpegiating setting is clearly just a point im proving to show how different VST's can be...im NOT saying we cannot change it, im actually pointing it out and saying what the differences are.
I studied at Ystrad Mynach College for my BTEC Nat. Diploma in Electronics and Electrical Engineering (achieved Distinction, Merit, Merit) before studying at Glamorgan University for which is now my BSc, you can even Facebook my name: Shane Williams, go into my Education and even see the years I was there whilst also seeing comments on my Wall with my friends asking how my presentation went in Uni on Monday.
Crazy guys, absolutely crazy...im a member of Serious-Sounds, SHM and L-Luke forums and I have a good reputation on them and an excellent reputation on Serious-Sounds for tutorials on how to make certain sounds yet i've never met 2 Members quick to judge or criticize. |
I'm not judging or criticizing, but you clearly have no idea and were claiming I was being negative, I'm not being negative, but your posts are amusing, and wrong in several instances. Maybe english isn't your first language and thats why you're coming across as a noob, but at this point, you should probably be quiet because your posts and advice are quite low quality IMO.
| quote: | | But that's almost what it is in a Sound process...the measure (wavelength) from crest to crest determines what sound it will be...an even Sine wave would not be the process of sound for a Violin as it's wavelength is usually shorter (stabby type waves) than a sine therefore the wavelength determins the wave form in those contexts. |
No, the measure from crest to crest is NOT what makes a wave sound a certain way. The shape of the wave between the crests has something to do with it as well. I can't believe I'm explaining physics to s (supposed) engineer! A sine or saw wave might have equal wavelength but sound completely different. Maybe you're thinking of fourier transformations whereby a collection of sine waves at different frequencies can compose any other waveform, but frankly you just sound very confused!
| quote: | | how can we question that a Square Wave is NOT a Wavelength?It's in the name!! |
I'm quoting this for hilarity, and may make it my signature. |
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| ken_lee |
great thread.
in this case wavelength is 330/freq, for example a E4 is on 330 Hz, which gives a 1m wavelenght. its not a square lol. |
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| G-Con |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
And I could care less about your reputation on a fan site for a rather ty producer. I have an alt on newmothers.com where I pretend to be a mom. My cred is rather high. |
This is probably the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum. |
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