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EddieZilker
Sounds great, to me. Very, very pretty, sir. I'm not certain about minding the white noise as I actually thought it was used appropriately and not as a crutch to carry weak points in the song.
TranceElevation
Considering your previous mixes this one sounds definitely better.

Good choise from you to accept critics openly without getting offended as a 5 years old kid.

Regarding this one, you should cut a little bit more from yuor very low end of the kick and very slightly turn its volume down. That will open up your mix letting the other elements breath more as well. The kick is still exercising some obfuscation to your mix (you should be able to hear it), so try applying what I said and see how it works for you.


Also, the mix sounds pretty static to me. Use those percussions. Put different volumes to each note to give it some dynamic, some live. You could apply the same principle to hats and other driving elements. I personally use it with the basslines as well, but I don't suggest it to you at this stage.

And for last: be careful with those high frequencies, they could be very annoying for the ears.
Kysora
Not to make excuses but the white noise really sounds louder in SC than it does in Winamp. I agree with most of you though, I'll dial it down a db or two. Not getting rid of it entirely though.

As for that comment calling it "empty", this is a WIP, so I expect this to be a bit more layered when it's finished. I'm hoping post-mastering will help bring out some of the subtle pads and melodies anyway, it should sound much fuller once it's finished.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation
Considering your previous mixes this one sounds definitely better.


Considering some of the things you've said about my music before that means a lot, thanks for the advice. I'll see what I can do about the things you mentioned.
evo8
just imo - i think its lacking a bit in the midrange area, like between 1k and 5k, but im listening on my ty work headphones so.... also theres a lot of stuff going on in the track, maybe a bit too much however that maybe the style you are going for
TranceElevation
Oh forgot to mention...

The track is too loud.
Mise
Congrats!, I really like this work. The bass is really driving.


keep it up Kysora!
meriter
I think if you brought down the low-end a bit the melodic elements would have more room to breathe. It sounds like they could use a little more separation and depth. I have no idea what your process is like so I can't offer any real advice on how to bring out more dynamic
kitphillips
Did you make the glassy pad at the beginning yourself? Its got really nice movement... I think the highs are a bit breathy to be honest, but the white noise is fine. It lacks a bit of definition in the mids, maybe a bit overcompressed? The mix just sounds a bit lifeless to me, I think its what other people are talking about as "hollow" or lacking depth. Its not a layering issue at all, its a mixing issue, and IMO mastering won't fix it.

The other big problem is that during the breakdown you're doing too much with that pluck sound IMO. Especially that little descending thing at the end of the phrase (eg, at 2.40). It sounds contrived I think, but thats just my opinion. I'd keep that part a bit more simple, because its already doing a lot of work in the top end, without making it more complex.

Its an OK track but it all sounds a bit generic and basic, and there are a few small problems. That's not a bad thing though, its very proficient, just not that unique IMO. Up until the breakdown it probably sounds quite releasable, but the breakdown sounds pretty amateur due to a few little things.
Kysora
Well, the .flp got corrupted somehow, and project recovery didn't fix it at all. I lost the track.

Guess that's good news, I'll work on a new version keeping these comments in mind. I can't imagine how the track is too loud, though, it peaks at like -10 db.. most of my mixing peaks at around -4 to -2
sonicboom
to avoid corrupt files i always save as a new file when i have done "major" changes. most of my projects ends up around 15-20 project files. i usually give up when i have more than 80 lol.

kitphillips
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Originally posted by Kysora
Well, the .flp got corrupted somehow, and project recovery didn't fix it at all. I lost the track.

Guess that's good news, I'll work on a new version keeping these comments in mind. I can't imagine how the track is too loud, though, it peaks at like -10 db.. most of my mixing peaks at around -4 to -2


I didn't look at the levels, its just that it does sound flat and lacks dynamics. Are you putting compressors on the individual channels?
Kysora
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Originally posted by kitphillips
I didn't look at the levels, its just that it does sound flat and lacks dynamics. Are you putting compressors on the individual channels?


Not on many of them, no, I've made it a habit to try and avoid compression. There's a maximizer on one of the background pads and some compression on the kick and one of the midbasses, but that's about it.
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