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trend of club scenes (trance music vs electro house)
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justmee
my friend and i had a discussion about how electro house is taking over and trance music is dying? what do you guys think about this?

it made sense to me because the structure of trance music is different and you really have to listen to a majority length of the track to get a real feel for it (generally, from beginning to end). whereas electro house, u can use snips of beats and just keep playing it.

when people go clubbing, the majority of them arent there to dance through a 6~8 minute trance track and follow all the emotions of the track, but they would rather hear a constant beat (no need to take harmonic mixing into this).

trance music seems more like a wave that takes the crowd through emotions
whereas electro house may do similar, but the structure of it is more snip bits of it.

what do u guys think?
is electro house slowly taking over? :conf:
EddieZilker
1. There are a lot of bad sound systems.
2. There are a lot of bad producers.
3. There are a lot of bad DJ's.
4. There are a lot of bad promoters.
5. There are a lot of bad labels.
6. There are a lot of (as evidenced by OP) uninformed listeners.
7. There are a LOT of bad habits.
8. ???
9. Profit.
Vernon Wanderer
They want to feel COOL, eh.


SYSTEM-J
Welcome to 2005.
justmee
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
1. There are a lot of bad sound systems.
2. There are a lot of bad producers.
3. There are a lot of bad DJ's.
4. There are a lot of bad promoters.
5. There are a lot of bad labels.
6. There are a lot of (as evidenced by OP) uninformed listeners.
7. There are a LOT of bad habits.
8. ???
9. Profit.


that's prominent in almost all areas of music genres. there are always good and bad.

im talking about mainstream trend..

it seems like trance was pretty underground, and had a huge surge of fame following tiesto / armin, and then it went back down. Now, electro / dubstep / electro house is trying to make it up.

an analogy would be:
disco 80s music died down, now it's mixed as samples in all sorts of genres.
drum n bass is still underground pretty much
old school rap (NWA, Wu Tang, 50 Cent, etc) were all mainstream, but now that style is underground.

what's happening to trance?? is it just giving birth to a bunch of sub-genres? and if so, will trance ever be big again in its pure "TRANCE" form?
djnitride
quote:
Originally posted by justmee
what's happening to trance?? is it just giving birth to a bunch of sub-genres? and if so, will trance ever be big again in its pure "TRANCE" form?


I hope it comes back in its most pure form with supersaws and lazers blazing!
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by justmee
that's prominent in almost all areas of music genres. there are always good and bad.


Not prominent to this degree. Look. If you are a guitarist but you suck at playing the guitar, it's going to show because guitar playing has several established forms from where it may be judged. If you try and pass off a stumbling version of "Stairway to Heaven" as competent, chances are there is a majority of people who have heard that song played competently enough to know you suck ass.

That's not the case with techno. Short of being computer illiterate, it's relatively easy to sit down and conjure up a tune and the basest of the electro/dub step genres requires very little formal music theory to crank out. Techno attracts a lot of people because, as social myths go, it's easy music to produce. Consequently, there is a significant manifest of that social myth with a lot of people making very poorly made music.

The producer is just one link in the chain, as you have labels who will sign crappy tracks and when listeners hear crappy tracks on crappy sound-systems, they just don't sound as bad as good tracks on crappy sound-systems.
Zyklon_Jay
Paint by numbers techno is easy to produce, yes. The guys who take more of a sound design approach such as Robert Henke, are not an easy style of track to reproduce for an amateur...sorry.
DJ Dingel
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Welcome to 2005.
Light The Fuse
electro house? that stuff will never take off.

oh wait.

weclome to 2005.

KilldaDJ
2005 oh hai.
stealthman
Trance belongs to raves in the middle of desolate sandy areas, not at at over-paid clubs :o
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