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Prizim - need some feedback/opinion
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| sicc |
So pretty much I'm not a very expierenced producer, I'm still very new, So dont expect some masterpiece while listening. If you think its a terrible mess and just want to talk bad about it plz just dont say anything :D My concern is about the bass, it seems a bit to muddy on the low end, and I dont feel it fits quite right with the melody of the pluck synth towards the end. This is not going to be how the track is structured its just pieces of the main chorus of the track. Please let me know your opinion reguarding the bass and whatever else. any advice is much appreciated. thanks!
http://soundcloud.com/sicc/prizim |
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| J.L. |
okay, here's my critical opinion on the low frequencies:
1) Kick sounds too boxy. I prefer kicks with a less noticeable pitch drop type of sound, with a pronounced sub that comes in a few milliseconds after the kick after a nice mid-trebly click to it. This kick sounds sorta 'toy-ish'. It works well for a track that's maybe 160 bpm-200 bpm or something like acid
2) Either isolate the bass frequencies so it's not in conflict with the kick frequencies, make them play in different notes, sidechain compress the bass, or do a combination of all of these.
3) The bassline does not groove with the kick. This is something that takes a bit more magic, luck, and experience to figure out. The bass kinda just feels to be playing random notes. I find the most important part with basslines is just to try 20 different styles until one just works.
4) The pad does not really need any of those frequencies around 500 hz and lower. Lowpass or lowshelf that. |
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| sicc |
| quote: | Originally posted by J.L.
okay, here's my critical opinion on the low frequencies:
1) Kick sounds too boxy. I prefer kicks with a less noticeable pitch drop type of sound, with a pronounced sub that comes in a few milliseconds after the kick after a nice mid-trebly click to it. This kick sounds sorta 'toy-ish'. It works well for a track that's maybe 160 bpm-200 bpm or something like acid
2) Either isolate the bass frequencies so it's not in conflict with the kick frequencies, make them play in different notes, sidechain compress the bass, or do a combination of all of these.
3) The bassline does not groove with the kick. This is something that takes a bit more magic, luck, and experience to figure out. The bass kinda just feels to be playing random notes. I find the most important part with basslines is just to try 20 different styles until one just works.
4) The pad does not really need any of those frequencies around 500 hz and lower. Lowpass or lowshelf that. |
Indeed sir, I never thought about isolating the bass frequencies, which i do think will work. I think im going to alter the notes of the bassline as well to find that groove. Thats actually exactly what i felt was not working w/ the bass; no groove with the bass/kick, i just couldnt put my finger on it! Thanks for your feed back man I appreciate it. |
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| TranceLover007 |
Will run it in a few - check your SC site for my comment/suggestion
Cheers,
Darek |
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| sicc |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Will run it in a few - check your SC site for my comment/suggestion
Cheers,
Darek |
I replied on SC to your reply. Thanks very much for the advice! We will see how it turns out. Thank you! |
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| TranceLover007 |
Glad I could help my friend.
Cheers,
Darek |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| Yeah the kick is pretty full-on. You're pretty much covering a whole range of frequencies, and first thing to try could be to cut the frequencies that are strongest on the bass (on the kick, that is). Try cutting between 200-250 Hz with a relatively wide Q and you should find the kick changes drastically, but doesn't take up so much room. Then, since your kick is also heavy on low frequencies, try rolling this off on the bassline instead (not always a rule, but in your case it could help unmuddy the sub below around 100 Hz). I mean really there are a lot of ways to go about this, and first and foremost I would choose kick and bass sounds close to what you want, and then use these tools for the rest (which J.L. already mentioned). |
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| sicc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Atlantis-AR
Yeah the kick is pretty full-on. You're pretty much covering a whole range of frequencies, and first thing to try could be to cut the frequencies that are strongest on the bass (on the kick, that is). Try cutting between 200-250 Hz with a relatively wide Q and you should find the kick changes drastically, but doesn't take up so much room. Then, since your kick is also heavy on low frequencies, try rolling this off on the bassline instead (not always a rule, but in your case it could help unmuddy the sub below around 100 Hz). I mean really there are a lot of ways to go about this, and first and foremost I would choose kick and bass sounds close to what you want, and then use these tools for the rest (which J.L. already mentioned). |
Right on man, thank you for the advice. I have been messing with the treble on my kick trying to cut down on the low end of it. Hopefully it turns out well. thank you. |
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| tatsama |
| the kick i think actually sounds good..but the bassline doesn't gel well with it.. can't add to what j.l has already said.the hats are nice..but could be a lil brighter i think..would be nice to have a slightly longer version to give some more feedback. |
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| sicc |
| quote: | Originally posted by tatsama
the kick i think actually sounds good..but the bassline doesn't gel well with it.. can't add to what j.l has already said.the hats are nice..but could be a lil brighter i think..would be nice to have a slightly longer version to give some more feedback. |
For sure, I actually liked the kick myself, nice bass and subtle, but I did cut some of the low end frequencies from it. The bassline was my main concern too. Ive been messing around with the notes of it and adding a sub bass. Ill probably have a longer version up in a few days to get better feedback regarding structure; I'm struggling with putting it altogether. thanks for taking the time to listen and give some feed back! |
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| Evolve140 |
| was gonna check but u deleted it :o |
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| sicc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Evolve140
was gonna check but u deleted it :o |
Yeah I'm about to repost to get some feed back on a more completed version. probably sometime tonight. Sorry about that chap. |
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