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| jester |
| quote: | The Michigan State Police have started using handheld machines called "extraction devices" to download personal information from motorists they pull over, even if they're not suspected of any crime. Naturally, the ACLU has a problem with this.
The devices, sold by a company called Cellebrite, can download text messages, photos, video, and even GPS data from most brands of cell phones. The handheld machines have various interfaces to work with different models and can even bypass security passwords and access some information.
The problem as the ACLU sees it, is that accessing a citizen's private phone information when there's no probable cause creates a violation of the Constitution's 4th Amendment, which protects us against unreasonable searches and seizures.
To that end, it's petitioning the MSP to turn over information about its use of the devices under the Freedom of Information Act. The MSP said it's happy to comply, that is, if the ACLU provides them with a processing fee in excess of $500,000. That's more than $100,000 for each of the five devices the MSP says it has in use.
The ACLU, for its part, says that the fee is odious, and that a public policing agency has a duty to its citizens to be open. "This should be something that they are handing over freely, and that they should be more than happy to share with the public--the routines and the guidelines that they follow," Mark Fancher, an attorney for the ACLU, told Detroit's WDIV.
As of yet there's no suit, but one is likely if the MSP sticks to its proverbial guns and refuses to hand over information about how it's using the cell phone snooping devices, without being first paid off. If litigation does come, the outcome may set a precedent that would have far-reaching effects, and might make a device that most of us carry a pocket battleground in the war of digital privacy. |
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...l#ixzz1K43MCcVk |
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| VDub |
| Have fun at DEMF everybody!! |
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| Jayx1 |
apparently the border people have the right to go through your cell phone as they did to me last year. They read my texts and bbms etc. I was pissed off but apparently its legal. So now i delete everything before i cross any border. They have no business reading anything. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
apparently the border people have the right to go through your cell phone as they did to me last year. They read my texts and bbms etc. I was pissed off but apparently its legal. So now i delete everything before i cross any border. They have no business reading anything. |
Someone should hack into the Secret Service and get all the info on the President detail. Lets see how the Government likes when people start spying on them (Practically impossible). Wouldn't be interesting if we started seeing what certain officials text or email each other. Time for WikiLeaks 2.0
If the FBI, CIA, NSA or which other government agency sees this. YOU!
It is time for US citizens to wake up and take their country back already. |
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| GGM |
I already avoid the states as much as possible but ya add that to the list of reasons. Really don't think there's a way this will go through though as traditionally you need a warrant to access info like this I thought? If this actually goes through then that's absolute insanity. Cops can not be trusted with that degree of power. Sure maybe 90% of them would be ok but the 10% who abuse it will create havoc and lawsuits galore.
Cell phones will be a battleground for digital privacy rights for sure. You basically already have all your calls on there (landlines are becoming rare), all texts of course, all emails, where you've been (GPS) and the banking/financial side of things will all be there in a year or two as well. Right now on an iphone/BB OS 6/Android think of what someone can dig up on you just using the universal search. Just type in the name of a drug or anything dirty and boom if you've ever sent/received that word it shows up and they can read the thread of messages relating to it. As soon as the media starts getting its hands on some horror stories about cell privacy gone wrong you'll start to see it become a bigger issue with wireless carriers and OS designers hopefully. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Someone should hack into the Secret Service and get all the info on the President detail. Lets see how the Government likes when people start spying on them (Practically impossible). Wouldn't be interesting if we started seeing what certain officials text or email each other. Time for WikiLeaks 2.0
If the FBI, CIA, NSA or which other government agency sees this. YOU!
It is time for US citizens to wake up and take their country back already. |
we already had wikileaks - remember what happened to that dude?:P |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
It is time for US citizens to wake up and take their country back already. |
I really do hope so because this is getting really ridiculous. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
we already had wikileaks - remember what happened to that dude?:P |
Yup, its time for more people to step up and bring down the government to where it should be. The government should be scared of its people and not the people scared of its government.
I guess some people can be scared, who knows the army probably would kill their own friends and family to keep order in the US. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Someone should hack into the Secret Service and get all the info on the President detail. Lets see how the Government likes when people start spying on them (Practically impossible). Wouldn't be interesting if we started seeing what certain officials text or email each other. Time for WikiLeaks 2.0
If the FBI, CIA, NSA or which other government agency sees this. YOU!
It is time for US citizens to wake up and take their country back already. |
it was the canadian border that did this.. not the US side |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
it was the canadian border that did this.. not the US side |
Weird.
I still stand by my previous comment though. |
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| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
apparently the border people have the right to go through your cell phone as they did to me last year. They read my texts and bbms etc. I was pissed off but apparently its legal. So now i delete everything before i cross any border. They have no business reading anything. |
I was surprised that I was asked for my phone once when I was pulled in, but I had nothing to hide so I gave it to them. I never got a definite answer as to whether they had the legal right to do so.
I was telling this story to a friend, and he told me that he wasn't worried because he has a Blackberry, and apparently it can be set so that after a certain number of incorrect passwords, it wipes all information from the device. He also blatantly sends drug references in his texts, claiming that they can't be intercepted. I did some reading up on it, and it seems that this is a premium service, not included in all Blackberries by default.
Edit: My experience was also coming into Canada. |
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| King_Mack |
I'm pretty sure Jesse Ventura addressed something like this on his conspiracy show.
Its funny, I used to think a lot of what that guy says is outrageous. Yet more and more, he seems to be making sense lol. |
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