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Pirates of the Caribbean Remix Comp (Hans Zimmer) (pg. 2)
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| DJ Robby Rox |
/\ Well if thats how you feel then maybe you should just go make an account and download all the stems then come here and upload them for us TAers who are too lazy to make an account. :D
Then you can live happily knowing you did exactly what zimmer wouldn't want you to do. :thepirate |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodri Santos
i'd like to remix a Hans Zimmer track but i'd better go for Time, Gladiator or something of the like than joining one of this contest so that you get frustrated because a pop mix poorly engineered won. |
I don't like zimmer but I'd be keen for time if it was available. |
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| Rodri Santos |
| there must be a midi pack there because i've seen a lot of Time remixes, now making a remix of it isn't special anymore, if not i'd remix it because i love the track. |
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| J.L. |
The MIDI for Time is easy to figure out
A5 C5
E4 G5
G4 B5
A5 F#5
A5 C5
C5 B6
G4 B5
D4 F#5 |
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| kitphillips |
| Yeah but the midi isn't the stems is it... I guess it really wouldn't matter,there are no really distinctive samples in it, but sometimes its just nice to have the original stems. |
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| twist1 |
| After some googling I found a link for the On Stranger Tides stems for those who want to play around with them but don't have Indaba accounts, or don't want to waste a premium key for them. I haven't found Angelica yet, but I will post if I do. I did however find an article that shows pictures of Zimmer's studio near Hollywood. Absolutely amazing. I've never seen anything like it. It must be so wonderful to go to work everyday when your office looks like this. Does anyone know what kind of piano that is? I've never seen anything like it. |
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| avacoddo |
| Any chance someone could upload both sets of stems?? I'd be extremely grateful!! Thanks :) |
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| LoveHate |
| am i the only one who thinks this hams zimmers guy is garbage and highly overrated? |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by twist1
Does anyone know what kind of piano that is? I've never seen anything like it. |
a grand piano ? Basically it is like an electro/hybrid keyboard, but made of wood. Its a bosendorfer that much i know. It looks and sounds like the salon model but there is no Bosendorfer logo and it is relatively new so couldn't tell you for sure.
| quote: | | am i the only one who thinks this hams zimmers guy is garbage and highly overrated? |
compared to who ? He is actually quite hated by most composers for reasons i think are unfair and loved for the reasons I think are not really what I would say is what he excels at. I think he has improved quite a bit in the last 10 years. He sort of carried on in the tradition of Ennio where an overall ambience replaced the more traditional leitmotif approach. He was at times a little too over sentimental which is why he got a bad rap but in a way the movies he scored where superficial as well so it worked ?
His scores might not be master pieces, to be honest i think you would have to go back 30 years to even find a score that would be considered such. He does have alot of people working putting alot of time into things he doesn't have to. There are so many worse people doing similar movies that to pick on him is a little unfair. He isn't winning awards left right and centre.
I would also say the overall movie aesthetic makes it rather hard to do interesting music. You have such little room . If you did a Williams like score say star wars for a modern block buster, it would most likely get rejected. The sound effect / dialogue / music ratio has changed drastically. THere is a reason instrumentation is very basic. You can't hear the things you used to 30 years ago because that intricate orchestration is being drowned out by an explosion. SO you end up with some really boring scores. Even inception, which i thought was rather good scoring was criticized by the engineers that the music too loud. I thought it was better that way. You don't need to hear every word. Sometimes dialogue is important, some times it isn't, and most directors and producers fail to make the distinction. I would say it was intentional because the music can say more than a few words and the words being said are implicit in the music. It reminds me of the parts in opera where you have the sung text with the more generic music where the goal is to get the story across ( recitative ) and then you had the songs, (arias ) where the music is much more important and the words, even if you don't hear them , the meaning is understood. But movies today have to be idiot prrof so if a dialogue is not heard, and the average american gets confused, what could be added by something that says more than just dialogue, especially when you actually hear it doesn't matter to the producer.
I might of agreed in his post the rock phase all the way up till the ing Simpson quagmire but recently, i would say he is under appreciated at least by his contemporaries. He has stopped with tripe melodies which seem almost random at times and has started putting much more thought into what he does. But he is also one of the few who is judged outside of the area he should be judged in. He makes film scores. Judging the music alone would be like judging a movie with just the script. Or judging a blow job blindfolded. |
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| tehlord |
My favourite relatively contemporary score is Interview With A Vampire
You'll disagree but I don't care because you're a big, fat liar. |
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| avacoddo |
I personally think he is a genius, as is his mixing engineer Alan Meyerson. From a composer, producer and mixers perspective, these stems would be an invaluable source to study from.
If anyone has them PLEASE PLEASE send them to me :)
Thank you,
Email: [email protected] |
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| Looney4Clooney |
take a listen to any Wagner overture and then listen to hans. That is why there is this polarization from the people that say he is a genius , and those that say he sucks. He is very good at what he does which unfortunately seems to be lost on both parties. Genius is a little heavy handed.
And if you are interested in that sort of music, why not learn from the guys that invented it. The scores are available for free online. You will learn more from that that a stem which tells you very little. Each individual stem has about 100 tracks summed and you probably hear 2 elements. |
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