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FAO: All this white girls. (pg. 11)
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| VDub |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I don't get why a lot of people of Sicilian descent don't really identify themselves as "Italians." If you say "Oh, so you're Italian?" they respond with "No, I'm Sicilian."
Isn't that like asking someone whose family is from Hawaii, "Hey are you American?" and them responding "No, I'm Hawaiian." |
It's the exact same thing with the Romans...
And our idiots from Quebec...
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I don't get why a lot of people of Sicilian descent don't really identify themselves as "Italians." If you say "Oh, so you're Italian?" they respond with "No, I'm Sicilian."
Isn't that like asking someone whose family is from Hawaii, "Hey are you American?" and them responding "No, I'm Hawaiian." |
believe me it's also the other way around - Italians don't want the Sicilians to be part of them. My younger cousins in Sicily though are part of a more cosmopolitan new generation that speaks peninsular italian. And AFAIK they teach peninsular italian in schools, while the dialect is still spoken at home.
I am half sicilian, and nearly the rest is italian. My mother's family are all sicilian immigrants and I grew up very close to this side of the family, so I consider myself sicilian more than anything.
Typically if people ask what where my family is from I say 'Italian, from Siciliy'. If they ask etnicity I say 'Sicilian' because Italian in my case is just the nationality of my relatives.
Sicilian people have different blood than mainland italian people. Closer to southern italy, though. Sicily, being located in a strategic place in the Mediterranean Sea, has been occupied and settled by many different people over the years, africans, arabs, spanish, romans, greeks, phoenicians, etc. The dialect also is quite a bit different than Italian. When my grandmother visited me in Rome a few years back, she could barely understand or be understood by the romans. I think some spanish actually sounds more similar to spoken sicilian than italian. Granted, my grandmother grew up a sicilian hillbilly (redudant? :p) in the mountains near Catania.
And yes, there is at least one crime family that I know I am related to: the gambinos.
BTW, native Hawaiian people WILL say they are Hawaiian. They actually are an ethnic group with their own history, like Sicily. Similar to the scottish too. And catalonians. or Basques. or Punjabis. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
I'm Northern Italian but dark skinned. When i say white I don't mean it strictly defined by the literal definition of the race. When i say white I mean as in socks with sandals, peanut butter and jelly eating, no sense of style or rhythm, sunburned in 2 minutes with absolutely no sex appeal or that little something something ethnicity can bring.
in other words, most of you. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Most of who? I really don't think there are many white people, as you describe them, here. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| this is a trance board. that is whiter than owning a nigger . |
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| srussell0018 |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
BTW, native Hawaiian people WILL say they are Hawaiian. They actually are an ethnic group with their own history, like Sicily. Similar to the scottish too. And catalonians. or Basques. or Punjabis. |
But Scottish people are just people from Scotland. It's not really an ethnic group, as Scotland is part of the UK, whereas the Republic of Ireland is not. I'm just saying that if somebody asks me if I'm Irish, I don't correct them by saying "No, I'm from the Rep. of Ireland" I just say, "Yes, I'm Irish."
I don't think I've ever met anybody from Hawaii, but I would assume that even if they were native Hawaiian, if you asked them if they were American, I don't think they'd say no.
Sicilians are Italian whether they like it or not :p |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
Sicilians are Italian whether they like it or not :p |
Yes they are, but ethnically they are sicilian and they are proud to be from Sicily. Same goes for Punjabis. My girlfriend is punjabi and she along with her whole family identify as Punjabi, regardless of the fact that the family is from an area now controlled by India.
I guarantee most people in this city would ratther be from New York than from America too. They're still americans, but they will always say 'Im from NYC' first.
As far as being Irish, though, there are plenty of people in Ireland who identify as 'Gaelic' before Irish. Not as many or as organzied as sicilians, since they don't really have their own island (previously kingdom). |
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| srussell0018 |
That definitely varies quite a bit from country to country. I never tell people I'm from Dublin. Most people just assume that anyways because they don't know any other cities in Ireland lol.
I actually met a couple people from Cork in Miami a month or two ago, and it was the same with them. Ireland's Ireland. There's not really different ethnic groups in Ireland, as the teaching of Gaelic has essentially died out completely in the country. Last time I knew it was something like 10% of the population can speak fluently, and only 2 or 3% speak it as their first language. I know some Gaelic words and phrases, but growing up I don't think I knew anybody that spoke it fluently.
Edit: We did have our own island until the ing Brits came and turned us into slaves. Now the emerald isle is split into the Rep. of Ireland and Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK still. I guess from that standpoint, most people from the Rep. don't even consider Northern Irish to be Irish at all, since most of them are British protestants, while most of the Republic are Catholic. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| About half of the population of this province lives in Canada but does not consider themselves Canadian. They speak another language and are very different than the rest of the country. They don't even really look the same...Sicilians and main land Italians have different physical traits as well. |
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| Zyklon_Jay |
| Every person I know from Hawaii says that they are Hawaiian first. |
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