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How to get a super cheap but seriously powerful mac.... (pg. 3)
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| kevin shawn |
Watching a few of those SSD videos again holy balls those are fast!
Actually it might be worth picking up a quad core g5 tower I see some on craigslist for about 600 right now. Install an SSD in there and I will be all legal no more hack it's tempting all for under $1000 easy. |
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
ONE FINAL THING FOR ANYONE INSTALLING SSD IN TO A MAC:
you have to be running snow leopard and/or install the updates to facilitate TRIM.
TRIM is basically intel's way of making sure used data blocks get wiped and ready for reuse (to avoid performance degradation over time).
If you're using a PC, you MUST install TRIM as well. |
Thanks for the reminder. As far as I know mac's still aren't shipping with TRIM support out of the factory. Found this though:
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37852/trim-enabler/
Now in the systems profiler it says that TRIM support is enabled. :)
EDIT: Another thing you want to do is disable the sudden motion sensor (completely worthless if your harddrive has no moving parts ;)
http://osxdaily.com/2010/12/16/disa...ion-sensor-mac/ |
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| meriter |
| quote: | Originally posted by kevin shawn
Watching a few of those SSD videos again holy balls those are fast!
Actually it might be worth picking up a quad core g5 tower I see some on craigslist for about 600 right now. Install an SSD in there and I will be all legal no more hack it's tempting all for under $1000 easy. |
The G5's are Power PC architecture, not a wise idea. |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by meriter
The G5's are Power PC architecture, not a wise idea. |
yes best to avoid power pc all together unless it's for using as an old machine.
Regarding SSD I have read loads of reports about high failure rates with them. Not sure if it's true, but as with regular HDs, kids don't forget to backup all your data! :p |
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| evo8 |
Have an SSD in my PC here, just have Windows 7 and some programs on it - so the only speed increase i notice is that boot time is a bit faster...
The real change will come when bigger drives become available (500GB+) and at more affordable prices - would like to see what difference that would make to my PC! |
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| DJ RANN |
Yeah, that's what I was talking about with the updates, but you just have to make it's on. I think anyone Snow leopard and above is ok, but otherwise you have to look for the update. Lion apparently is going to have even more SSD optimization :happy2:
@evo8 - that doesn't sound right to me. You should see any programs that rely on HD data being a lot faster (i.e music programs etc). Otherwise, check that you have the correct bios settings (i.e. not IDE selected) and also make sure you have the latest chipset drivers intalled and especially the AHCI drivers - this is really important as it greatly affects SATA performance.
@kevin - Forget G5 and power PC's. As per the point of this thread. YOu can save a bunch of money on a mac by buying a 2007 or later mac and throwing in an SSD to make it nice and snappy. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by evo8
Have an SSD in my PC here, just have Windows 7 and some programs on it - so the only speed increase i notice is that boot time is a bit faster...
The real change will come when bigger drives become available (500GB+) and at more affordable prices - would like to see what difference that would make to my PC! |
Its also the page file, caches, etc. etc... Once all that stuff is on an SSD, you don't neccesarily need all your samples etc on one. |
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| evo8 |
Yeah i dunno, maybe ive just already got used to the extra speed lol, installed it about a year ago.
All i know is that it still takes a ing age for Live to open, would like to see if there would be much of a difference if had Live and all its components on an SSD too - some day! |
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| orTofønChiLd |
im in the market for a new a mac pro and thinking of getting a solid state drive
here are some specs that im goin with
One 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem”
6GB (3x2GB) Memory
512GB solid-state drive |
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| music2dance2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kevin shawn
I did replace my PSU last year, it worked for a good 6 months with no reboots or kernel panics. Currently dual booting with seperate HDs, most restarts are when I'm gaming on PC. It will do it randomly when in OSX. My office does get a little warm evo I probably need to reinstall my heatsink.
I am wanting to build a new machine for gaming and I guess whatever parts don't fix it when troubleshooting could go towards a new build. Hopefully it will be as easy as a tube of thermal paste :) |
I know other say forget g5, up to you as its down to finance and your long term goals but I got a dual G5 for £220. Just to run logic and its great, I went down the hackintosh route and it wasnt worth the bother of problems down line, which you seem to have encountered. I got the G5 to bridge the gap until I purchase a newer mac once I had the cash so I could use logic straight away while I save which always takes time. At the prices they are you can have it as a standalone without breaking the bank and have your other gaming machine without the headache of hackintosh.
If you can wait to save though or have the cash right now then obviously get something newer that is intel etc. Just my 2 cents. |
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| johncannons1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
The short answer is yes. If it's one on the last white ones before the Alu versions came out (2006?), it will be intel processors (good news for compatibility reasons etc).
The only downside (I think) is that the 2006 imac only have SATA1 on those, so you won't quite see the kind of massive boost that SATA2 or 3 do, but still it will be the single biggest improvement you can make to your imac. SHould speed it up nicely.
Here's a link on someelse that did it so it should be very easy:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/..._2006_imac.html |
THANKS ill check it out :) |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
im in the market for a new a mac pro and thinking of getting a solid state drive
here are some specs that im goin with
One 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Nehalem”
6GB (3x2GB) Memory
512GB solid-state drive |
Don't do it just now. New Mac Pro's are imminent, and that means either more processing for the same money as you would have spend, or the previous versions are going to drop in price.
Wait a couple of months (new ones should be released by then) and then decide. Whatever you do, don't buy apple's SSD - buy a mac pro with one drive and then install whatever drives you need after the fact.
Also, forget the larger size SSD's for at least the next 6 months. 250gb and above are still seriously over priced (the cheapest 1tb SSD is retailing for about $1900) and frankly, you only need a small drive for the system and audio apps and programs (say 160gb tops).
That's why I say get a mac pro with one decent large normal hard drive, put the SSD in yourself and use it as your system drive with the HDD for samples etc.
Then once the price of large SSD's come down, gradually switch over to those. There's no way you'd be able to max that puppy out. Thats would be a seriously sweet setup with your lavry ;) |
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